Hi everyone - Geoff has raised a really important point for anyone trying to beat the booze (thanks Geoff, you are a treasure!). A slip doesn't mean the end, and it certainly doesn't mean you can't come back here and post. And you most certainly won't be judged if you do. Quite the opposite!

When I was getting sober, we talked about gaining 'sober miles', that is the days we didn't drink. Those sober miles still exist, even if you do slip back and drink again. You learn from them, you learn what a clear head feels like, what it's like not to wake up hungover, and they can drive you on to try again. In my case they taught me to accept that, for me at least, there was no such thing as 'just one', but it took a while to learn that.

The important thing is to keep trying until it 'sticks' and if you really want to quit it will stick eventually.

Here for you.

Kaz

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Hiya Rhes, well done hun! You're going great. And you sound really positive. Giving yourself other treats is a good idea, it relieves that feeling of deprivation. I like Geoff's idea of the calendar, the further you get the easier it becomes and you'll see what a big achievement this is.

It probably will get a bit harder soon, that often happens around the middle and end of the first week, so hang in there and stay strong. It gets better again real soon. Another little trick some friends of mine used was to set aside the money they would have spent on booze and then buy themselves something nice with it. I did this too ... after a few months I bought a lovely ring which I wore as my sobriety ring every day to remind me. Eyes on the prize hun - you can do this!

Kaz

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Hi Geoff and Kaz, great advice as always. I will mark my calendar too. Yes it's tough, I am feeling positive as I keep in mind i'm not missing out on anything by missing out on drinking, that's for sure. I am feeling quite crappy now, kind of like a hangover but different. In a way it's good because I just feel like sleeping not drinking, when I get home today. I never have a problem sleeping as I do a very physical job, but I've been waking at 4am each morning. It's no problem, I get back to sleep by listening to podcasts. All these symptoms of alcohol withdrawal seem to be happening right on cue. I can't believe how bad it is for the body! Otherwise, mentally I'm good. I know the mental challenge will be the next thing to face though.

Hope you're both well :-)

Hang in there Rhes.....you're doing really well. Yes the old "calendar" marking worked for me....counting off the days.....turning into weeks (how miraculous was THAT!!!)....then it became MONTHS...oh God how am I doing this impossible thing??? you stop counting after a couple of years...then it becomes just over a year....nearly 2 years etc etc.....sounds like a marathon hey? I'm coming up about 3 and a half years about now.

I remember I got a little booklet from the Alcohol & Drug Department from our local hospital which was easy to understand and with cartoons explaining in a humorous way what to expect each day re withdrawal, bodily changes, cravings etc...it was spot on!!

My GP at the time suggested counting up how much I'd spend on casks of wine etc for the week...then as the weeks went by, get myself a little present with the money I'd saved. All of us are right with you Rhes......Moon S

Hi there, I am after some suggestions/advice please. I have probably been drinking way over the recommended limits for about 10-15yrs. I suffer from anxiety and depression, and this can escalate in times of high stress to need weeks off from work. I have a demanding job with high responsibilities and poor stress management.

I drink to relax and I drink to forget. It's not healthy and it affects my ability to be motivated to do anything. I really don't know how my partner puts up with me. He is awesome and will push me at weekends to do something physical like kayaking or bike riding. I don't socialise or even wish to leave the house if I can help it. I have seen a psych recently but I cannot follow through on the simplist tasks and I'm sure it is because of the booze.

so I made the decision to do something about it. I've tried to reduce intake before or use willpower to stop drinking but it doesn't work for me. I purchased Allan Carr's Easyway book the other weekend and stop drinking whilst reading the book, since the 16th July - 11 days ago. I'm am not sure whether this is coincidence or alcohol withdrawal but since the 21 July I feel like death. I feel like I have a sore head/neck and on the verge of sinusitis, this morning pretty severe headache which made my tolerance to criticism very low and burst into tears. Apart from this I feel ok, but little energy to do much after work except vege out.

so what does withdrawal feel like? Does the above sound like a virus or withdrawal. What can I do to manage it, and how long might it last?

i was experiencing palpitations over the weekend but this has settled down. I do feel quite anxious at the moment and have required medication on two occasions but I am only using if anxiety is extreme and upsetting me.

I feel a bit alone but I know this will be worth it it not sure where to get information or help.

Hi Jodes, welcome to the forum hun. You have made a great decision to quit the booze - I know I couldn't do anything to address my mental health problems until I stopped drinking. That had to come first for me. Well done on your progress so far, you're going great!

It is possible that your symptoms are from withdrawal, I know a lot of people experience flu-like symptoms when they quit. But I'd say if it continues, talk to your doc. It might be a virus, or it could be both, especially at this time of year.

The emotional issues are common too with withdrawals - both our bodies and minds experience big changes when they don't get the alcohol they are used to. It will pass with time, maybe another week or two. The good news is once you start to feel better you REALLY feel better - sleep, mental state, body, everything improves. Your skin and eyes will be brighter and you'll feel a great sense of achievement.

The best thing to do in the early days is focus on staying sober and keeping well. That means staying hydrated (sweet drinks can help - our bodies are used to a lot of sugar from alcohol) eating well, sleeping when you need to, getting fresh air, distracting yourself with things you enjoy and avoiding triggers (whatever would make it hard for you to not drink, say going out with friends or whatever). This should be your main focus for a while, but it is so worth it.

It's great you have joined us here and I hope you'll treat it as a place to come and chat anytime you need some sober company and support.

Kaz

Hiya Rhes, you are doing really well hun! I love your attitude. It's great you have a physical job - wearing yourself out physically so all you want to do is get into bed is a good strategy for the early days. People I know joined a gym when they first quit booze so they could knock themselves out after work then go home and collapse. (I tried that for a while but sadly my relationship with exercise is, well, problematic haha).

It's quite normal that you'd be feeling a bit crappy now, but it will pass soon. The second week is just that bit easier. Don't forget to treat yourself, especially at the end of the week. I struggled badly with Friday nights for a while. Have your favourite takeaway, buy a cake, whatever makes you feel good.

Keep going hun, we're cheering you on from the sidelines here! 😃

Kaz

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Hi Moon, lovely to meet you and thanks for your advice and support. That book sounds good, anything in cartoon form is just better! The online info ive found is very clinical, talking about the patient in the 3rd person. I'll keep researching. And yes, certainly plan to buy something symbolic of the milestones if I make them, it's a great idea :-)

Thanks Kaz, muchly appreciated!! Have a great day

Hiya Rhes - I second what Moon said. 😄 Hey, I play guitar too! Not tonight though, I'm having pizza and watching the footy.

I'm glad you're feeling good hun, because you're doing great! Hope you have something fun planned for tomorrow.

Kaz

Hi Rhes - how was your weekend hun? Hope you're feeling good!

Kaz

Hi everyone, hope you're having a good Monday!

I wanted to run something by you, I got this thought last week while sitting in traffic. It just sprung up, "if I'm going to do this successfully, I'm going to have to experience the rest of my life without a rest for my brain, ever". It was panic attack stuff, like if I'd been told that my body could never experience sleep again. I've had panic attacks many years ago and managed to talk myself out of them at the time. This one passed quickly though it was quite powerful and negative. It hasn't happened again and I don't dwell on the thought. Just interested if anyone experiences these types of thoughts.

Also wanted to say that I like how 'apprentice' comes up under my name, makes me feel proud and like I'm in training for something, which I guess I am 😊

Hi Rhes - it's quite common to be panicked or scared by the idea of never drinking again when it's been the way we shut out the world. That's largely the reason for the 'one day at a time' approach. Don't say never again, say not today. It's easier to comprehend and easier to deal with.

It is hard to imagine never being able to give your brain a rest, but over time you will find other ways to switch off. A lot of people use exercise, or meditation, or music. Some take up a new hobby that's engrossing. You'll find a way hun.

You're doing great!

Kaz

Thanks to you both, as always. Yes I've been thinking of signing up for yoga again for the meditation aspect. Talk soon and have a great day 😊