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Topic: Feeling down due to fatigue & undiagnosed health issues

  1. demonblaster
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    23 December 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hey Elizabeth thanks for the update.

    Poor man but good hearing there's some improvement that must be a relief for you both. I hope that continues.

    It's terrible being really tired.

    That's quite ok hun just when and if you're up to chatting. Take your time and get what rest you can poor soul.

    Thoughts and care ⚘

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    30 December 2021 in reply to demonblaster
    Last night I had really bad nightmares. Woke up really distressed by them. The hot weather is triggering them I believe. I'm worried they might be a premonition of what is about to happen which is terrifying. I feel isolated as I'm too scared to go out because of the heat and risk of sunburn. Summer is so stressful. Covid makes things worse as I can't escape anywhere safely.
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    30 December 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi Elizabeth ☺

    Nightmares are the pits you poor lady. My theory but I really don't know if it's the reason though ? a contributor is they're about stress finding a way out

    The heats oppressive isn't it adding to what already you're feeling. If you have a spray bottle or throw some water on your face/arms & chest then have a fan on which excuse the pun I'm not a fan of particularly that can temporarily cool you a bit.

    You're not at the moment (atm) by the sounds but again I may be wrong here getting any or much stress release. It's as you well know so hard not having balance with so much going on. Must be heartbreaking 🤗

    I saw you'd posted on our Shellys walking thread which I aim to return to & read back a few posts. I was hopeful you've had something in the way of outs with walking but maybe not because of the sun

    Wondering if there's somewhere in the shade you could be out in and take your time. Or sit and enjoy nature for a bit. Alternatively at home under a tree. Maybe before or closer to sunset when it cools a bit

    Sometimes no matter how exhausted when it seems impossible to move we can even just a few steps. A slight change of scenerys given me not only a tad of energy but a temporary break from it all. Observing whatevers around us like colour insects birds sounds, the feel of a breeze or simply being out of the house can give a touch of freedom from it all It's incredibly hard yakka isn't it hun

    I wonder if you've been able to sleep much lately too. It takes a long time to unwind enough let alone catch up that's so needed

    As much as anxiety wants you too burn up your little energy and creates a genuine fear of what might or not too is important to be aware of, I'm finding it helps thinking IF these things happen you'll deal with them then. Another approach is directing your thinking to if there's anything you could do to be prepared

    I don't know for you dear Elizabeth if it seems like you can't do another day - but we do - somehow. We have a lot more in us than we think possible

    Do you think a call to the good people here could help hun

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    You know hun you have many friends here that care deeply about you. We're listening when and only if you want to talk as much or little as you like

    You're in my thoughts good lady and hubby too. Truth⚘

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    31 December 2021 in reply to demonblaster
    I struggle with the hot weather. O can't get motivated. Even though the house is closed up and a reasonable temp I feel like I'm boiling hot and scared to do anything. I cant think of anywhere to go because it will be too hot or too crowded or the car will be too hot. I can't live like this
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    31 December 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Good you're keeping hot air out through the day Elizabeth unless there's a breeze can give you some reprieve.

    Cool showers can be a godsend too if not cold. I think when we sweat which is our bodies cooling system it can when it dries lock in the heat. Feels that way sometimes anyway.

    In these times the simplest most basic things can easily be forgotten like gentle deep breathing which you'd know about and how much in tension we our poor muscles and bod needs the oxygen. It can also help relax us and destress a bit.

    Do you like art or any particular music Elizabeth?

    I'll bbs with a link to Marconi Unions Breathless I think it is. It's gentle and helps reduce stress lower Blood pressure and more significantly if you feel you'd like to listen to.

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    31 December 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Oh Elizabeth, I feel for you.

    I agree with DB about the deep breathing. Concentrate on each breath and how your body is feeling. Maybe it will calm you on the inside. Nice and calm....And give your troubling thoughts a break for a while.

    Maybe sit and look at photos of all the beautiful places you have been too. The hills. The views.

    Wish I could make things better for you.

    Magnesium is good for stress and also diffusing 100%lavender essential oil may help you calm down some

    Hi DB

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    31 December 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Weightless. Page 4 16 Oct and 18th Nov for relaxing music


    Hey Elizabeth and everyone ☺

    This music called "Weightless" was collaborated with music therapists.

    Looks like it's still #1 in the world to help with anxiety.

    It's said it can reduce anxiety by 65% & 35% of usual physcolgical resting state

    https://youtu.be/UfcAVejslrU

    Any things worth a go darls that might give you some reprieve from your pain.

    I suggest without nagging to do deep breathing if you listen to this as often as you can think to hun.

    Hold your breath for a couple of seconds on each inhale.

    Slowly breathe out and feel your neck muscles relaxing it can help.

    Every second we've moved into an unknown future.

    Which can open new possibilities circumstances and change.

    Hold on Elizabeth you really are an amazing lady doing your absolute best in such hard times.

    You really are not alone here ☺🤗💗⚘

    Hey Shells ☺


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    14 January 2022 in reply to demonblaster
    I have made several attempts to post and thank DB & Shell for your thoughtful replies. Unfortunately my mood has not been good so my attempts to post have failed. My mistake. I have been too stressed to attempt again till now. I am supposed to see my psychologist next week but I am thinking of cancelling. I feel that I am wasting his time. I don't seem to be getting any better and I feel he has given up on me because I cant improve. I keep procrastinating about contacting the clinic. I also have had reminders from my old GP re things to follow up but I won't ever trust her again but don't feel up to seeing my new GP to explain everything. I just feel like I dont deserve help and just can't face discussing things. I'm afraid of being judged and being mistreated like I was by my old GP.
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    14 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi Elizabeth ☺ and everyone 👋

    You poor soul so so much stress and pain aye.

    That's quite ok hun I know you try and do reply so whenever you're up to is fine. Truth no pressure ☺ and is the way here

    How awful that you're feeling you're wasting the psychs time and that they've given up on you. Do you feel you could discuss this with them although I get that you said you're not up to talking and explaining things which is incredibly hard in this headspace.

    Just that my concerns for you are that you may not be able to have much opportunity to unload which again I'm not sure but there may be things you can talk about to them but not here.

    Once recently you mentioned you'd said too much on a post here which imo anyway it's exactly what here's for, to say as much or little as you feel up to. You didn't break any rules by the looks and hopefully it helped a bit getting some of the pain out.

    Fear of feeling judged and being mistreated sounds pretty normal for I'd think at least most people in very bad mental health. If they're good at their job no one should feel that way.

    Alternatively is it possible dear Elizabeth that feeling so incredibly low that depressions making you feel that way. I mean absolutely no harm by that it's just that first hand I know too well how our view in such deep times like this can be darkened and not always how it is.

    It sounds like you've had some poor treatment from your previous GP. I'm sorry hearing that. It would be hard starting over. Do you think over a period of time you could put it in writing in small batches to give to a new one or email it to them.

    Sorry I'm not sure what clinic you've been procrastinating about. Do you mean for some treatment to help you through this? If so you poor soul I hope there is a way of you being able to get some help. You're honestly imo under such hard circumstances doing incredibly well. If helps out there it'd be worth pursuing I'd think but that's your decision although you too need care darl 🤗

    Thanks Elizabeth I so want to see as we all do for you to come out better on the other side of this.

    Thoughts care and support ⚘

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    14 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    I so much wish I could help you Elizabeth. My heart goes out to you. Can any family member stay with you for a bit? Just to take the load from you for a bit. So you can have a rest.

    Thought medical records and such could get sent from one doctors to another. Maybe that would save you repeating everything. I don't know, but maybe.

    Much kindness to you Elizabeth

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    15 January 2022 in reply to Shelll

    Hi Elizabeth and Shelly ☺

    Excuse me Elizabeth just for a tic.

    Shells I thought that'd be common practice too transferring the health records though I'm talking from yrs ago it's madness they didn't or dont still now I'm guessing but it could be different.

    Actually Elizabeth I'm not fully versed on 'My Health Record' I think it's called and it's our health records on line so if you go to hospital for example all that infos there for quick access. If so maybe that could be accessed through a new GP.

    Dear lady 🤗 and for you too Shells if youse like ☺

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    15 January 2022 in reply to demonblaster
    Thanks Shell & DB, The GP was supposed to get a copy of my records from the old GP but I don't think he has read through it to find out what is relevant or not. I would need to ask questions and prompt him to check on things. My current negative feelings mean I feel worthless so struggle to ask for what I need because I don't deserve it. I over react to things so I'm worried I'll say something wrong and then prove to the GP how bad I am so I'll have no GP. This fear of saying the wrong thing is making me cut off from even close family
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    16 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Dear Elizabeth ⚘

    You poor lady being so low and feeling this way is no life is it.

    Darl I'm urging you gently to please push through and talk to this new GP. You're in desperate need of whatever help out there's available and the starting points usually through a GP. You need him to know hun of exactly how you're feeling because then they can get you the right help.

    Talking about writing again some advantages are you having time to collect thoughts and express them which face on depending how we're feeling doesn't always work out - how often it's oh should have mentioned this and that afterwards.

    I suggest telling him exactly what you're feeling too lovey as hard I know it would probably be but otherwise that might stay that way or get worse. You're already in a very hard place darl you don't need or want any more on top eh.

    A thought about your current psych Elizabeth can or maybe you have said to them that you've not if that's how it is for you been able to apply what they're teaching or guiding you with.

    Geez I feel for you. A good lady in such a hard place.

    This understandably might sound like yeah right but it is true hun that even from the deepest darkest places our minds can go we can pull up from there. With helps going to be that bit easier I'd think and tbh it's not necessarily fast but that's ok because every small bit of light takes away some darkness.

    Always support care and better ahead wished for you Elizabeth ⚘

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    18 January 2022 in reply to demonblaster
    I have been seeing a psychologist for 2 years. My psychiatrist referred me to him for exposure therapy for PTSD. After a bumpy start we started making progess until covid hit which then stopped face to face appt and limited opportu ities to do some of the things he recommended. We then got side tracked from original goald because of the need to deal with extreme stress related to covid and other issues. We have gone back to face to face sessions but I'm feeling like I'm wasting his time as I'm not progressing. I've lost all motivation. Just feel like I wish I was dead as life is no longer worth living but I cant do anything about that. I don't know whether to cancel my appointment tomorrow or should I go for one last time and tell him I want to stop as I have given up trying.
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    18 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi dear Elizabeth,

    You really seem to be in a darkish spot. I am sorry.

    Elizabeth your little grandchildren will have a huge hole in their lives, if you were not around. Only you can fill such a special place. No one else on earth can. Just wanted to say that. You love them it comes across when you write about them. And they you.

    Just my opinion, I think you should go to the appointment, maybe show him some of these posts you have written, or print them off for him. Just see what he thinks.

    Gosh my heart is for you, I have known you for a few years now. It is hard to see you like this. I care so much for you.

    Gentle hug Elizabeth if you will receive it.

    All my love Shelley xx

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    18 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Dear Elizabeth ⚘

    Oh dear lady it's really hard going feeling like that. I feel so incredibly sad for you and understand completely how it is feeling like that for different reasons but yeah it's in a word the pits.

    Darl yes I too think the best action for you would be to keep the appointment to tell the bloke exactly if you can express which can be very hard in these times or as Shells suggested show him your post which will give him a good idea of where you're at.

    You've been very low for a long while now. That doesn't mean although it feels like it won't change, that it can't.

    Lovey you keep going and that no matter how hard and it really is, shows you've got what you need to pull back up. Believing you can is a strong force. Learning how to handle these incredibly powerful emotions I believe is in our grasps. Might take a while but sliwly light replaces dark.

    I've heard here and around of different therapies/techniques to help with the mindset.

    Always with you Elizabeth.

    You're cared about liked and loved including here hun.

    Please don't give up on yourself you really do deserve to have a chance at recovery.

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    18 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP
    Hi Elizabeth CP,

    We are sorry to hear that you feel like you're not progressing and that you feel you are wasting your psychologist's time. We understand how hard this must be for you and want to remind you that you are worth the time and effort. Please remember that there is always immediate support available to you, whether it's from our professional mental health counsellors Beyond Blue (available 24/7 on 1300 22 4636) or our friends at Lifeline (13 11 14).

    Both Beyond Blue and our online community members are here with you.
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    18 January 2022 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Dear Elizabeth~

    There is no need to reply to this, I know the effort to do so. Simply take it as it is meant -a friendly contact -and leave it at that.

    When I saw Sophie_M had been talking with you that prompted me to drop in. Why? Basically I care, you are a person worthy of that in many ways, and that does not change whatever you think or feel.

    On reading since I last spoke to you I see you feel pretty bad, with pointlessness rearing its head, and plain simple long term exhaustion physical and mentally a big influence.

    So you consider stopping your medical team, maybe you think that wil be easier, maybe you think it does no good, or is just a hassle.

    Everyone who has spoken to oyu has suggested you keep on wiht them, Why? Because you are the same person that was capabe of responding to treatment - you said so yourself and that has not changed, merry Covid circumstance introduced another factor, which will lessen as either it dissipates or you get used to it.

    To dwell on this 24/7 is harmful, makes every negative thing magnified. So rather than tedious logical argument I'll tell you about my walk, which I can only do sometimes, and is short but stressful and spectacular.

    Mrs C drives me to the riverbank car park, where we are accosted by ducks, coots, native hens sand sundry other wildfowl -plus a cook form a neighboring house. Ducks even pedal like mad to get from the other bank and try to push each other out of the way.

    We throw stale bread, trying to get some to the chicks, youngsters and outsiders. When hte bag is empty we walk though hte trees, watching the native hens jockey for position wiht the females, and charge each other noisily skwarking in mock attacks until the intruder gives away.

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    18 January 2022 in reply to Croix

    Sorry, the internet posted my message before I'd finished -it happens:(

    To continue...

    We slowly walk beyond the barrier of trees, with well-mown grass either side of the path until we see a bend in the river. In the middle is geese island, where they, and their little fluffy yellow goslings, sleep each night. We look for 'V's in the water, ones without any visible cause, platypus. If we are lucky we see one duck-dive after a tasty morsel on the riverbed.

    There is much in this world that I can so easily forget without be inf reminded

    Take care Elizabeth, you are worth the trouble.

    Croix

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