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Topic: LONG TERM SUPPORT PEER GROUP

  1. 1113
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    29 January 2017

    Hi all,

    I haven't formally meet anyone yet.

    I was going to go through ever thread to introduce my self but instead came up with this peer group thread.

    "a group of people, usually of similar age, background, and social status, with whom a person associates and who are likely to influence the person's beliefs and behavior."

    Seeing as we are all in the same thread area I think that makes us suitable for peer status.

    A place to get to know each other in a safe calm environment.

    It would be preferable if poster are from the "long term support over the journey" but I won't object to others posting.

    Please chat............I'll leave it open.

    Peace

    Matt.

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  2. 1113
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    My name is Matt.

    My life is a continuous battle which I am getting really good at.

    I am a chef and funnily enough my interests are everything else in the world too.

    I have an extremely opened mind and can relate to anyone at different levels.

    I may come across as a bit distant or distracted sometimes but this is because of my perspective on life.

    Some things in the environment really pev me off. I have learnt that emotions are just that "eemotional"

    I have found a zen state of life to be perfect for me.

    Thats a bit about me

    Peace

    Matt

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  3. 1113
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Its 6am. I feel like death on toast as per usual.

    Im just about to start my 1.5hr meditation walk.

    Some of my best think comes from this. I filter thoughts continuously while meditating and walking. Profound wisdom is found there. Sometimes No wisdom comes at all I really enjoy this part of my day.

    The rest is a mix of bluh and fluh. Walking is my peace.

    Anyone else have any cool mindfulness stuff.

    Peace

  4. White Rose
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Hello Matt

    We have crossed paths a couple of times. You words of hope and encouragement to others are great.

    I think we accrue wisdom as we grow older although we do not always recognise it until circumstances pop out the appropriate file. Meditation is part of this "getting of wisdom" for me though I have been rather slack about it just lately. What is the phrase "repair your roof when the sun is shining, before it rains". Neglecting this has not helped me manage my current difficulties, but I am trying a bit of catch up.

    A friend of mine takes frequent walks and says he finds himself meditating as he walks and saying his mantra. While walking is good both as exercise and mindfulness, it's not a favourite activity of mine. I like to sit outside on my patio and read, drink coffee, meditate and watch the birds. I commented before that no matter what I start with I invariably end up just sitting and allowing the peace to settle in my soul.

    I also have a wide variety of interests.

    I love your philosophy that emotions are just emotions. I agree in theory but find it very hard to put into practice. My emotions cause me a great pain at times, hence the meditation and repairing your roof.

    MAry

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  5. Guest_9809
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Morning Matt. What a super idea! You have had your thinking cap on again havent you? Anyway good on you. I can see that you have been very busy this morning already.

    Thanks also for your brief introduction. Of course if any one of us wants to know more about you then we will be able to turn to your thread, also located in the Long Term Support section.

    Some people here already know me, but I will give a bit of a personal intro. I am in my 50's, a heterosexual female, married - first time for me, second for my husband. I am a wife, step-mother, grandmother, aunt, sister, daughter, and Mum to my little dog. I was in the ACT for some time for work, but now live in NSW.

    Recently diagnosed with ptsd, of which I have been suffering from for a number of years. Never occurred to me that I could have it. Like many, you tend to dismiss it, unless you are an emergency worker or in the military.

    I tend to be a loner. Not really anti-social, but just not comfortable in a crowd, or among strangers. So I have few friends. My domestic situation exacerbates that. Definitely an introverted personality, who finds social interaction highly exhausting.

    I have worked since the day I left school - full time until about 4 years ago and part time since then. Typically in accounting, clerical and rural-interest roles. I have recently resigned from my current job, and just waiting for my replacement to be found before finishing. This will be a new thing for me, exciting in a way, but also a little daunting.

    What will I do in my free time? Well ... I already do volunteer work in the aged care industry, which I enjoy. I will definitely continue that. I've always loved reading, so will welcome the extra time available to do more. I have also recently started to do poetry and art, something my psych has encouraged me to do. If you'd known me at school you would know what a big undertaking this is - totally lacking any skills in the artistic and musical fields. I've started writing, also as per psych advice - anything just to get thoughts out of my head. I hope to have more time to start on a regular exercise program at a gym in town. They have a pilates class but at present it clashes with one of my work days. And more regular walks with my dog. Once I finish work I will have no excuses! (-:

    Soon I expect to start some ptsd therapy with my psych, so that may stall things for a bit, although I hope not.

    Anyway hello everyone.

    Taurus xx

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  6. 1113
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    29 January 2017 in reply to White Rose

    Hi mary,

    I would like to say welcome. But I dont want to own this thread. So hello back.

    I think that mindfulness however you choose is excellent. ☺

    Peace is indeed great.

    My walk was really good today. It took me awhile to find my center. I feel to much frustration.

    I am eating rock Mellon and cashews plus i drunk 1.2 ltr of water. Although I don't sleep the best yet and i wake feeling crap after my walk i feel alive. I do this 3 times a day and its helping me beyond recognition.

    I wake in the early morning have breakie and my meds plus sups and 1ltr of water then walk.

    I do hope more people feel the courage to join this support group. It might take awhile but if it remains friendly and non judgemental it should be great for community feel.

    The only classification is "long term support".

    Do you feel this to be acceptable?

    Peace

    Matt

  7. Lost Girl
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Hi Matt and Mary and Taurus,

    I think this is a great idea Matt. Mary has been a wonderful support to me at my most troubled times and Taurus while fairly new here has made a huge impact to supporting people including some dear friends I have made on here.

    I had an ice skating accident in Aug 2014 where I broke my shoulder in 3 places. After it healed I developed a chronic muscle tension headache and some neck/back issues. I have been hopping around specialists since then some with more success than others. At my lowest point I became depressed. I had to trial a lot of ADs to find one that worked, pain meds too. The medication mix left me in an extremely dopey shaky mess, unable to function much at all.

    Skip forward, with the help of a new medical team I am now off all meds. I am regaining my condition and able to be physically active in short amounts. I am pacing myself. I still have a headache 24x7 but it is a little better than when on the meds and I am certainly more active. Onwards and upwards.

    My time is now largely taken up by tasks assigned by my OT. These include walking, group exercise which I start this week, reading, arts and crafts, light housework and I am being forced to be social. Before all this happened I loved being social but I find it really hard now. I feel like I am super quiet when out with people and I find it hard to break the silence.

    The original cause of my headache has changed. I now have Central Sensitisation which means my central nervous system and brain are not processing pain correctly. I still have a way to go.

    I have a very supportive husband, though he forgets at times how hard this is for me because I "look ok". I have 3 beautiful kids, 11, 7 and 4. The youngest is not yet in school.

    I haven't worked since Dec 2015. My OT plan has me looking at return to work at the end of March. I am very nervous about it because although I am more active I still have a headache 24x7 which affects my concentration and ability to do tasks that require brain power.

    I am a Business Analyst/Process Specialist in a global role in an IT company. My Manager is in the UK which makes things complicated too.

    That's my story. Here I am, trying to learn to "fit in" again :-)

    I have met some of the kindest people I know here on BB.

    Carol x

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  8. 1113
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    29 January 2017 in reply to Lost Girl

    Hi all,

    Nice profile picture Taurus. Thats the spirit. Own it like a trophy. Nice.

    Carol,

    Your home environment sounds like bliss only you have the chronic pain to deal with. Have you tried any alternate medicine or therapy? I'm a bit of a hippie that way.

    ----------------​------------I need to learn to converse😊

    Today has been pretty good so far. Had a swim. My boy is back at school soon. Freedom. This past school holiday has been a rough sea. But I managed to surf long enough. I wont go back and talk about it. Buried it deep for now. To many other responsibilities for that.

    I've never really fitted in anywhere. Always had/have friends but only the ones left are the ones who have been through Traumatic times together. Those friends you keep forever. Sometimes seeing them brings up memories. I tend to keep to myself.

    I'm not sure what to do with myself. I get involved in anything I feel right. Don't have any real limitations. So I don’t fit in any where. Tend to freak people out.

    The best way to know me would be to read my thread.

    My depression is bizarre to say the least. I can't even remember why, at times. A massive episode can leave me unable to function at all. For some time. I am getting better with them but doesn't stop them anyway.

    I think thats enough for now.........peace

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  9. Guest_9809
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Thanks Matt, glad you like my newly displayed profile picture. I am trying to convince myself that its the way I feel about myself. Ie Proud, Tough, Strong and Determined.

    I think I can wear the Determined bit, but have a way to go with the other 3 bits. Anyway the reason its there is to remind me of what I am striving for. Although its not where I am now, it does represent where I want to be. I found it on a PTSD website, and thought it very appropriate.

    Yes Matt I know you have had a difficult Christmas holiday period, so it must be a welcome relief to have your son back to school next week. Hopefully things settle down to a normal routine quickly. I really admire what you have been able to do, despite your recent setback - inspirational.

    I'm glad you've been able to maintain friendships with others, even though this can be difficult given that you share some bad times. Thats the negative side of it. But the positive side is that they have a great understanding of who you are, where you've been and where you are now.

    Why would you freak people out, I wonder? Yes I've read your thread, and you are a very different person to me. But you dont freak me out. In fact I am somewhat drawn to your personality if anything. Like I want to know more, and to know what makes you tick. I too keep very much to myself, and talk little in public, other than when I have no choice. And yet, I have no problems with the written word. Grrr .. my frequent typos on the forums annoy me no end! Perhaps thats a bit of my OCD coming through?

    Depression ... yep, thats a new thing to me hitting me only over the past 5 months or so. I have contended with severe anxiety for many years, to the extent that its become like a constant companion. Depression only came about due to a few issues I had to deal with Sep/Oct last year. Though appropriate for me to go into detail here about the specific issues, but it is fair to say that the depression has stuck with me like glue ever since. My psych has told me its expected that someone with PTSD will lapse into periods of depression. Happy to hear Matt that you are getting better at coping with, and getting through, these episodes.

    I'll finish by asking if anybody ever writes handwritten letters any more? Research shows that writing letters boosts our mood, happiness and satisfaction, and counts as a form of mindfulness. To do a good letter, we need to be free of distractions. So go grab a pen and paper.

    Taurus xx

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  10. 1113
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    29 January 2017 in reply to Guest_9809

    Hi Taurus

    No..... I haven't hand written a letter for a while. Paper gives me a rash. I'm super allergic. Thats what I told the teachers anyway.

    I am good at art like ceramics, cooking ...but no fine point motor skills. Strangely enough I cannot focus on fine point. Very small detail, drawing, writing(messy) etc hard for me to do. Large hand manipulation art... yes. I used to enjoy the wheel (ceramic) studied that at school. I owned one about 10 years ago.

    I like spray painting.....restoration. House painting. I can fix anything on the farm, around the house. I am a farmer too. Raised that way. Enjoy gardening, my grandmother said I had a green thumb. I can understand plants very easily. I had a massive vegetable garden but lost interest when i started my own business.

    I can build computers from scratch and have a high understanding of technology. Did a cert 3 in IT. I cannot sit for that long in a day. Always have to be on the move. So I stoppeed doing that. My interpersonal skills aren't great.

    I like philosophy and i find it feeding my mind.......info going back to ancient Egyptian times. This is informing me of old techniques, mindfulness etc. . I find inspiration for philosophy in everything I see.

    Did you know a depression reference is in the bible.....book of jobs. Google it. Cool read.

    I freak myself out......lol.

    Its super hot today, the sun has a sting in it. No clouds and tomorrow will be even hotter. I went for a walk which drained the energy right out of me. I could feel my skin dehydrating.

    Consistent Anxiety will hurt the brain. To much stress on the brain will injury it, then it needs time to recover. Its a muscle.....it strains. Only you can't rub deep heat into it. Lol.

    Ok.... depression. Not for here.

    Your writing is proud, tough, strong and determined. You write good. I wouldn't worry about mistakes. I don't think it matters. I can see your anxiety in your words sometimes. I'm feeling quite slow atm.

    Do you do any work? Or are you working and foruming at the same time?............hahahaha i sound like a boss.

    I wounder if anymore people will post here. We might have to start recruiting. Lol. I feel like I'm talking to much about myself.

    Matt.

  11. Lost Girl
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    29 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Other than this year, I write letters at xmas time and pop them in my xmas cards to my interstate family and friends. My Mum was 1 of 13 children and now she has passed I write to all my Aunts and Uncles in her stead.

    Matt, you sound a bit of a renaissance man. Nice! I will find your thread to learn more about you.

    If only we could just rub deep heat into our brains hahaha

  12. Shelll
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    29 January 2017 in reply to Lost Girl

    Hi everyone,

    I already know you Carol, Mary, Taurus. And hello Matt.

    And Matt, I actually wanted to work as a chef, when I was in my teenage years and did school work experience in a RSL club bistro. The thing I most remember about that is peeling and peeling potatoes. What sort of food do you cook?

    I originally became a member of BB, because I didn't know what else to do or who to talk to. That was in early November 2015. I felt like I was living in a dream and not real. I also felt very worthless, insignificant and like I didn't matter to one single person on this earth. Currently I feel like not real again, but sort of know why now. So I guess I have learnt that.

    Anyway so as to not bring along sadness too much to this cool thread. This is a bit about me. I worked and lived in Sydney for 3 years when I was 18 years old. Worked at Concord Hospital mainly in the wards there nursing as an enrolled nurse. I went overseas for 8 months after that. And came back with a British accent. Long gone now though.....

    I also studied a nanny course at TAFE a couple of years later. I don't work as a nanny though. But I did look after some young relatives for a time. Anyway that is a bit about me. It is now quite a few years later....

    A special hug for you Carol and Taurus. And a gentle friendly shout out to you too Mary. And Mary I haven't forgotten about that book you mentioned and suggested for me to read. It is on my list. And this is a good idea of yours Matt.

    And I sometimes write letters, mainly to older relatives around Christmas time, that is about it.

    Shell xx

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  13. 1113
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    30 January 2017 in reply to Shelll

    Its a pleasure to officially meet you shelly,

    Its nice to read your words.

    I hope you have been getting out of that deep hole you where in not long ago. Depression is so hard. You have a inspirational ability to pick yourself up when things look better.

    I am so glad you have joined us here. It would be nice if everyone could get along. Sometimee I feel like an outsider, watching in on the cube.

    I find people and personalities interesting. I think my journey to discovery is going to continue. I think that social studies is what I like best.

    I thankyou for joining us here.

    This thread belongs to you too.

    Peace and equality

    Matt.

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    30 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Great idea Matt! There are quite a few of us old timers, I mean long termers, around and to have a place to catch up, share our stories and things we've learned along the way is wonderful.

    I can see that reading this thread might be useful for newcomers too - to see our journeys and our progress.

    I know you all and you know me, but for those who don't ... I'm Kaz, 53, from Canberra. I joined BB in February 2015 when I was in a bad way with depression. I didn't post much then but I got a lot out of reading the forum. I became active in November that year following the suicide of a colleague. I needed support but it also spurred me on to get involved with mental health.

    At that stage I was still being treated for depression, as I had been for 15 years. But things started to change, I started noticing I was rapid cycling between the lowest lows and highest highs. Long story short, diagnosed with bipolar disorder type 2. It's been a hard road but I am now stable and mostly well.

    BB has literally changed my life and given me purpose. I've found my passion - helping others with mental illness. Until September I was a federal public servant. I was made redundant and although that shook me terribly, it also made me realise I hated what I was doing and never wanted to go back. In a way it was the best thing that could happen, because it gave me the chance to change direction - into working in mental health.

    Next Monday I start a new job, a policy and project role in the MH sector AND I start studying for a certificate 4 in mental health too, so I will eventually be qualified to do support work.

    Funny thing is, the job pays nothing like I was earning in the APS, and I don't care. The knowledge that I will be doing something very worthwhile and meaningful - something I've never had in my career - is enough.

    Why I'm telling you all this is because it's my way of paying tribute to BB, the forum and all you great people I've met here. I feel that by being here I've come to terms with being bipolar (and a non-practicing alcoholic), I even embraced it as something to learn from and use to help others. And I believe I've found my place in the world, my role in life.

    Time will tell, but for now, that's how I see things. And thank you all my lovely friends for helping me on the way - more than you could possibly know.

    Cheers

    Kaz

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  15. Guest_9809
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    30 January 2017

    Good morning everybody.

    Oh fun ... I see we have some new visitors. Great to see the overnight addition of Carol, Shell and Kaz.

    Matt - your new profile picture - is this one of you? I hope it is, because I like it. Although I am unable to make out what the tool(?) alongside you is. Perhaps you can explain. I've also been meaning to ask how old your son is. Although I understand if you'd prefer not to say. I dont recall reading anywhere on your thread what age he is, only that you are a single Dad.

    You are multi talented arent you? Obviously creative as well, as cheffing is a creative thing, as are all those other hobbies you mentioned. Not great on the finer motor skill set? No use asking you if you do needle point then? My attempt at humour! Farmer aye? I know you currently live on the land. Do you run sheep, cattle, cropping or perhaps something a little less run of the mill? I have lived on the land all my growing up years and most of my adult years as well. Mainly fine wool sheep and some cropping.

    Matt, you asked me if I do any work? I thought I explained that in my intro. Yes I have worked all my adult life. Currently only part time, at 3 days per week. But within 3 weeks I will be finishing up, after having resigned a month ago. I am lucky though that about half of my work I am able to do from home, which makes my life a lot easier. So yeah, you're right - sometimes I do a bit of Foruming and a bit of work at the same time. But I am not paid by the hour, I am paid a set amount each month, irrespective of the hours I work. So if you were my Boss I dont think you should have any reason for complaint.

    Well Matt, we have some new posters hear overnight, so we may no longer need to go on a recruitment drive. People will slowly filter through here. We just need to keep the thread 'active' and people will see it and come on in.

    Do you think it would be worthwhile to have certain topics to discuss occasionally, or a certain day for a specific function? Something like that? What do others think? Suggestions I'm sure would be most welcome. As Matt says, this is OUR thread, lets make it into something we can all be proud of, and at the same time something we can all benefit from.

    Thoughts?

    Taurus xx

  16. 1113
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    30 January 2017 in reply to Guest_9809

    Afternoon all,

    Welcome Kazzl.

    My day has been pretty good. It's extremely hot, dry and very windy. I hope there's no fires today. We had 2 close by in the last few days. Lucky for those massive water helicopters. Dealt with it very quickly.

    I'm physically and mentally exhausted tooday due to heat.

    Yes..thats me...this morning during my morning peace walk.

    The tool is my walking staff. Its made from liquidamber (red gum) with a bull horn on top fixed with cooper.

    Symbolic;

    Copper is a chemical element with symbol Cu (from Latin: cuprum) and atomic number 29. It is a soft, malleable, and ductile metal with very high thermal and electrical conductivity. It is the 3rd oldest metal in the world. Its mentioned although out history. They found boats made of copper from the Egyptian time. It was more wanted than gold. Its funny how time changes things. Atomic weight 63.3. I like numbers . lol The elemental alchemy symbol for copper is also the planetary symbol for Venus. .

    The bull horn looks cool, i think anyway. Horns are used although out history too. Biblical; Horn : The word "horn" is often used metaphorically to signify strength and honor.

    Walking staff; Biblical; often carried a cane or staff, which would be ornamented at the top, but it served the useful purpose of protecting them ... Thus the sceptre, or rod, of the king became a symbol of protection, power. Other historical beliefs; Because of this, the walking stick can represent needing to meditate and be one with your environment. The cane or walking stick is frequently associated with masculinity.

    I enjoy walking that much. Lol.

    Not only that.......its really cool for flicking snakes away. There bloody everywhere at home. One went past my front door last week.

    I want to find a job that I can do. My boy will be back at school tomorrow and I'm feeling well atm. I could slowly re-enter the work force. I'm constantly confused what to do because of all my interests/skills and the ongoing management of mental health. It's a variable to hard for my mind to get around. I have a few options....but I'm no good with options. Procrastinate a lot.

    Signing off now. Chat later. To tried and my boy wants to go for a swim. I can't wait for tomorrow. Freedom. For awhile anyway.

    I truly appreciate this open space for people to just be themselves without a mask.

    Peace to all.

    Matt.

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    31 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Morning all

    Taurus I like your ideas, though I'm not awake enough yet to give any suggestions. I'll ponder.

    Matt thanks for the welcome. How are you today? Is all well? Thank you for explaining your walking staff. I had been trying to work out what it is. And I'm waaaay impressed at you flicking away snakes! I had one in our yard a couple of weeks back - an enormous (gets bigger everytime I think of it) eastern brown. My sensible head knows it's long gone now but my other head still looks for it each time I go outside. Scared the bejebus out of me.

    Have a good day folks

    Kaz

  18. Jugglin Strugglin
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    31 January 2017 in reply to Kazzl

    Hi all,

    I'm Newbie posting, been lurking for a while, so feel as if I 'know' a lot of you. It seems I bump into a lot of the same people in surfing here, so we must be like-minded...amazeness! My 1st post was 'long term consequences' in depression. This is happy 21st! Now to overshare. Openness is NOT a prob, does cause some tho.

    Im 55 yo single mum to 16yo son. Live in remote coastal area in old renovators delight on 10 acres. A dream for a lot of people, and it WAS mine, but now feels like a rock around my neck. We have strange family setup. Still friends with ex who lives 10km up Rd, so he's here most of time, goes home at night. Good for son as I have no living relatives, but probably stops me from moving on. I have absolutely no interest in new relationship, so that's why it's come about like this. Will have to change when schools done.

    Ive had loony (feudian!spellcheck haha) looooong bouts of depression since teenager. This one close to 10yrs. Most depression info says 2 yrs....WHAT'S WITH THAT????..... enough already. Oh well. Comforting to see on BB that many in this boat too, so the experts should revise that bit!

    Have always worked. Colourful job history, done lots of very different stuff. Main ones were Nurse then 20yrs ago, fulfilled my lifelong dream to become a vet. So only done that since. Dream job for lots, I have loved it but emotionally taxing, finally cracked & can't work atm. Physical issues too. Long hrs, always on call, no holidays, just making ends meet, now no savings, no work, no sick pay. Its probably time to do something different, but world has changed so much since I've been living here,so don't know/want to get back on roundabout. I enjoy these forums and feel/hope I can contribute, perhaps I should take leaf outta Kaz's book (you are inspiring Kaz, way to go girl) and do something in mental health. I enjoy helping people (too much, as I'm now finding to our detriment), should give it some serious thought.

    So I have learnt : careful what you wish for!

    I am living the dream, dream job, dream house. I have never been more unhappy. Long term depression, caused by circumstances, has led me to neglect my health, my house, my business, so now spiralled down out of control, so consequences now unrepairable. Gonna have to make major changes soon/NOW but have NO idea what to do. Can't cope mentally or physically with any of current options, so just getting thru each groundhog day atm, head in sand. Grass is greener.

    Lee x

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  19. 1113
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    31 January 2017 in reply to Kazzl

    Hi all,

    Welcome Lee.

    Kazzl,

    I'm doing ok. I walked it off a bit. I think this thread could do with some sort of flow to it.

    Most people in this area have tried everything to get better. The unfortunate thing for some of us is it doesn't go away. I've suffered well over 20 years now and I am still suffering. It definitely helps for us to get out of our own world and converse as a community to aid with acceptance and informing the general public of this terrible health issue.

    I'm going to start a rant of about how the health system works and how Dr's sometimes dismiss our problems as not real.........

    I'll leave it open

    Peace

    Matt

  20. Jugglin Strugglin
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    31 January 2017 in reply to 1113

    Thanks Matt,

    Is real to insurance companies tho.

    As a nurse I've seen too much. Also cared for mum over 6yr complicated medical story. God help us all. Sadly, it is not only mental health that is poorly dealt with. It seems any health issues are too much for the system. Is it cos it is underfunded, understaffed, or do health workers become burnt out, uncaring? If you go into hospital for any reason, you really need a knowledgable advocate to keep things sailing smoothly. There is so much miscommunication and misinformation, it becomes like Chinese whispers & everything becomes twisted. You are lucky if you aren't discharged worse than when you were admitted. And this is with physical illness so we can only guess as to what is written in our mental health notes.

    One of the best dr.s I've ever had was genuinely excited after my visit. She said 'I think you are ACTUALLY depressed', as if she saw so many people who thought they were depressed, but only probably were a bit down, or melancholic naturally but I was a needle amongst the haystack. They must hear it time & time again, so that must be draining for them. It would become difficult to seperate the grain from the chaff (not sure which of those we are?)

    On the other side, after my mother passed away, I went to dr for a physical problem. He was mums dr, so knew my story, and got me to do a k10 type test which showed chronic depression. I didn't feel depressed at the time, just coping with grieving as expected 3 mths after her death. I said as such, but he said often with chronic depression, you don't realise you are suffering, so he suggested I start on ADs. This was the 1st time I'd been medicated, and looking back, I probably didn't need them then, but over the next few yrs went on to develop major depression, while still on those ADs.

    Looking at above stories, I must radiate depression?!?

    Maybe it comes down to the individual personality of the dr. Even to what sort of day they are having. The stigma is lifting as the numbers skyrocket. So there are more people who understand how physically debilitating mental ill health can become. It is becoming a 21st century plague. The more knowledge, the more technology, the worse it gets.

    It is good to see some GPs 'specialising' in mental health. I think we will see more of this. Research is advancing (one good thing about tech age) so hopefully better understanding & treatment options will follow. Soon.

    Otherwise, get a new doctor.

  21. 1113
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    3 February 2017 in reply to Jugglin Strugglin
    Hi Lee,



    Thanks for thoughts and allowing us to get to know you.



    I personally like my Dr's. I just feel that there are so many illnesses and people that it's hard them to keep up with the demand.



    I feel the system should be looked into rather than attacking people individually.



    The amount of medication pumped out to the general public for illnesses is astronomical.



    I would love to bring a more natural and spiritual aspect to mental health issues in Australia.



    I feel that would ease the ever growing population and stress on GP'S hospitals, unnecessary medications, etc etc.



    I also have no interest in insurance companies. That's a problem for someone else.



    I'm not supposed to be login in atm. But was typing while medwalking. Back to my retreat.



    There's the most spectacular sunrise. Wish I could post picts.



    Peace



    Matt.
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  22. Jugglin Strugglin
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    3 February 2017 in reply to 1113

    Thanks Matt

    It is a beautiful morning today.

    I agree that the health system is sick. Things have to change, especially with the increase in aging population. I see more robotic surgical procedures are happening, so it is likely that health care will undergo a technological revolution, like so many other sectors have.

    I like my Drs too, it is one tough gig. Drs have a 4x higher suicide rate, mental health is a huge issue for them.

    Totally agree with the amt of Meds dished out. When people are on multi scripts, be it for heart or whatever,there must be interactions that we just don't know about. I think that ADs & prob a lot of other drugs have been hyped up by big pharma. It's great that they work for some people, but the stats vs placebo are a bit sad.

    Ive been looking into the gut-brain thing and the microbiome. It all makes sense to me. Our microbiome is massive, and we've probably killed it off/unbalanced it with all the antibiotics, even in our food. I've read a few posters say they feel better for taking probiotics, so that is on my list, when I can get to a shop next (1 hr away). Very interesting stuff, though lots of radical, over the top type diets that aren't 'tested' but there is a growing amount of credible evidence about the importance of it for both general & mental wellbeing.

    Lee

  23. 1113
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    3 February 2017 in reply to Jugglin Strugglin

    Hi Lee,

    I would be very interested in seeing future technology assisting the human brain. Kinda half cyborg.....cartoon humour.

    I personally cannot eat anything with extreme chemicals, I feel it 1 hr after eating and usually my body and mind feel unstable. My personal diet is working wonders for me. All fresh as much as possible. Absolutely no alcohol.

    Here is a thought for the future.........

    I don't know what it could do for this generation. Or people with clinical type illnesses but I do believe it may help the next-generation of children.

    I feel some kind of government intervention at the primary school level would be worth investigating. I may help ease future stress on the holistic picture. GP'S, GOVERNMENT, MEDICARE, FAMILIES, PEOPLE ETC.

    Maybe something along the lines of mental awareness training including sport that includes an extreme amount of focus training. Tai Chi or even something newly invented would help. I currently play a cool mindfulness game with my son.

    I think that if the young children where taught to control their thoughts and not the other way around, future environmental type mental illness may be prevented. It would also improve class attention spans and boost intelligence. Building a brighter future.

    I have been drawn into this topic.

    Peace

    Matt.




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  24. Jugglin Strugglin
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    3 February 2017 in reply to 1113

    Yes, our education system is sadly lacking in teaching life skills. We see western education as such a privilege, but so much time is wasted teaching things that will be useless for life.

    The 'underprivileged' cultures without formal education probably learnt more relevant things for living happily just by being/sharing together on a daily basis. How different our world might be if, instead of imposing 'the 3Rs' onto all cultures, we didn't take the opportunity to see what parts of their way of life might have been included into our education system to improve it. Even home-schooling must conform to strict guidelines, but I guess there are more hours in the day to teach the important things in life to our kids.

    I'm still working out a lot of it for myself, so I would be unqualified to be wholly responsible for teaching my son. Community life & support was important in the past, losing that now.

    Wow, I'm really surprised how that rant developed, but it is something I have been feeling frustrated about. Worried for my sons future. What will the future be like. How will he cope. How will anyone cope? I do think I would've been better off if born 20 or 50 or xxx years ago, or maybe in a different culture, without the technology. I yearn for a simpler life, a slower pace, less expectations. I am learning this, so perhaps it can be part of my future strategy.

    Matt, would you mind sharing your mindfulness game? If not, that's ok, but I would love to be able to share something like this with my son. We all need all the help we can get.

    Lee!

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  25. Just Sara
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    3 February 2017 in reply to 1113

    Apologies Matt!!

    I'm sorry my words were taken as disrespectful, I meant no such thing. I obviously misinterpreted your what you said and am really sorry my inference to 'justice' wasn't appreciated for how it was supposed to read.

    The issue at hand was and is an emotive and political minefield. I sometimes get carried away, but did not intend to cause harm to you or others, and would like it if we could continue our friendship as it has been.

    I take full responsibility for the thread being locked and seek your forgiveness for this; I know it meant a lot to you.

    Feeling shame and guilt...

    Sara

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  26. 1113
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    3 February 2017 in reply to Just Sara

    Hi Sara,

    No probs at all. I can see how others would find it hard to appreciate.

    I will do what chris said and take that topic to another forum.....

    I would feel privileged to remain your friend.

    I'm off to take my boy to piano lesson, id be happy to chat more later.

    Lee,

    I will share that a bit later. Bit busy atm.

    Chris B,

    Appreciate your kindness and honesty. Cheers.

    Peace and friendship to all.

    Matt.

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  27. Just Sara
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    3 February 2017 in reply to 1113

    Thankyou Matt;

    ...with humility and gratitude...

    Sara

  28. Music_Freak
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    3 February 2017 in reply to Just Sara

    What a great idea this thread is, I will come back and post more when I have my thoughts together more :)

    In the meantime, hello to those I know and to those I have yet to properly meet :)

  29. Guest_9809
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    3 February 2017 in reply to Music_Freak

    Hi Narelle, and welcome to his thread that Matt created for us all. Good to see you in here.

    We have met, as I have posted to your thread, so in our case .... hello again.

    Hi Sara, we have also met, although I havent come across you in a little while. Nice to see you again anyway.

    Matt, when you drop by again ......... I miss having you around. Enjoy the next few days at your retreat.

    Anyone else lurking around - hey come on in and introduce yourself. The more the merrier.

    Taurus xx

  30. 1113
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    4 February 2017 in reply to Guest_9809

    Morning all and welcome,

    I had the best sleep last night, the best in 6 months. Only woke a few times and feel at peace this morning.

    I do believe this thread to be valuable for all..Thanks Taurus, you cease to amaze. The more the merrier indeed.

    The whole concept of peer group support is very interesting to me.

    "a group of people, usually of similar age, background, and social status, with whom a person associates and who are likely to influence the person's beliefs and behavior." - google.

    I have a dream, I dream of peace. In today's day and age this is a belief that is going to take some time to influence. I this see so clearly. I must find peace within myself first. No resentment towards others, no animosity towards others and myself. Finding morals within myself and looking for those similar morals within others here in this long term support Peer group.

    Peace: freedom from disturbance; tranquillity."he just wanted to drink a few beers in peace"

    synonyms:tranquillity, calm, calmness, restfulness, peace and quiet, peacefulness, quiet, quietness, quietude,silence, soundlessness, hush, noiselessness, stillness, still;

    More2.a state or period in which there is no war or a war has ended."the Straits were to be open to warships in time of peace"

    synonyms:law and order, lawfulness, order, peacefulness, peaceableness, harmony, harmoniousness, accord, concord, amity, amicableness, goodwill, friendship, cordiality, non-aggression, non-violence. - google.

    Do believe the this must include equality. Being open minded to accept anyone as they are..

    I hope you all have a wonderful peacefulness weekend.

    I'm off to do what a father does best and look after his son.

    Chat soon

    Peace

    Matt.

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