I’m not saying everyone is the same, I just want people to be wary of that effect of the things they do and how hard it impacts someone. to cross the border is not something I’m happy about, my car is 16 years old and quite frankly doesn’t need to be sitting in 4 hour of snail traffic one reason I live here because I’m poor. The liberal party now want people to move for a job, like how are they going to pay for a removalist and 4 weeks bond?
I cannot afford this life and this border situation were back in after having no crap for 5 weeks of no permits it’s all back...but worse as police only have one lane open of a two lane road. I know I’m worthless and people don’t give two crackers about people like me,

that's okay Delectable, i can see your point of view

ur right there is a lot of issues now financially post covid

Of course it is upsetting not to have the government support.... it sounds like the covid situation is really difficult for u right now.

hey Delectable

I know what you mean 100 percent

it is very frustrating being out of control, when ur trying to plan on improvements for u life...

Do u have to stay home now where u are? i'm sorry it sounds so ignorant but for my MH i don't follow the news about Covid except the rules that pertain to my area of Melbourne...just because it's too much
So I don't know what's happening so much

I wander if maybe you might benefit form having a break from the news...it can be very heavy. When I need to find something out I just ask the shopowner at the servo and they tell me. That's how I found out that we need to wear masks indoors again.. Otherwise I didn't know.

Did you find another gp clinic? I changed GP recently and it helped me a lot.

Wishing you a calm start to 2021 and lots of good wishes

No, it’s not easy to change gp as most won’t take new patients and there isn’t any decent on my side...I cannot see a specialist either. I do have to isolate myself as I can’t help the old people if they think I’ve been near too many strangers, I only read abc news as it applies to me, there are a number of people from Sydney in this area apparently using it as a safety point till they can go back to Melbourne....and they have arrived since December 21.... o only go out for exercise here, nothing else...and if I see people I walk around them by 30m. I rather not see people at the moment, as there’s lots of couples and kids...I don’t need any reminders of how different it am or not good enough. It would be so nice to have someone supporting me in real life telling me it’s ok and looking after me...however my life is completely opposite to that and I’m tired of it...tired of having to parent and care for myself for all these years ...

that's a shame

my gp wouldn't take on new patients officially but I had to beg

I asked the receptionists to as the GP

you could say you just want a second opinion and not to see them long term - and get in that way

Or that you just want a referral to a MH professional because you have struggled and been at risk over this time

In terms of not being lovable or it being too late after having to parent urself

I don't know about that - I believe things can change.

Sleepy,

It’s ok, all the victorians who have been turned back at the border are on the side where the gp and psychologist is so it’s best I don’t go there, there’s a lot of Sydney people there too. I don’t understand their need for travel in their situation, if only they would stay at home. Cannot risk getting anything from all those campers as I don’t know where they have been and it would jeopardise my help with the elderly as I wouldn’t be able to go...so even though there’s no lockdown there may as well be one with all the repercussions of the other state that has Covid-19. I don’t like the specialist on this side for endometriosis, she said I had to get the bloating down which is impossible as it’s a symptom of endometriosis, her and the psychiatrist o both walked out on, I have no tolerance or patience for excuses for doctors who just want to fob me off. Sometimes I think it’s because I’m poor that instead of saying the truth they make it up as they stand to gain no money.

I just have to hope it doesn’t get out of hand in Melbourne otherwise having a police block on both sides and limited movement like once before when emergency and freight were only allowed to cross.

I read a great novel - The secrets we kept by L. Prescott, and have reserved more books on Russia at the library, I’m finding it impossible to read or watch anything non European, I still have an American book to read for my psychologist that she recommended, and I can always do a jigsaw, I have a 2000 piece to do of Budapest and smaller ones of Menton, St Petersburg, Prague, Paris that I treated myself 4 months ago from overseas, I couldn’t buy them in Australia even if I wanted to....

I offered to teach my old social worker how to make Italian Christmas biscuits as she would like to learn...I’m not sure if that’s happening now as she is interstate. I have stopped cooking for people, which i miss as it gave me something to do however it’s too humid to be eating that food, you mentioned you like buying things from overseas?

Where are your favourite places to buy from?

Hi Delectable

Please forgive me for barging in like a bull in a china shop, but your last few posts caught my attention. Let me start by saying, I have no mental health issues, so I do not speak from experience. In addition, your thread is a lengthy one, so I am not up to speed with your situation.

A few posts back you said, you were diagnosed with BPD. I would have thought that would have been of some comfort to you. I say that because the diagnosis explains a lot of the issues you are going through right now; the low self-esteem, the emptiness, the anger, the irrational thinking, the emotions, and all the other issues that accompany BPD. Your diagnosis puts all of those issues into a nice tidy box, with a label on it.

My point is, now that you know you have BPD, you can work through theses issues. With knowledge come power; the power to heal.

In a previous post you mentioned that you were applying for DSP. Why does that have to change? Why do you have to change doctors? Is this your BPD talking, or is a new doctor absolutely necessary. Think about that.

In answer to your last question, no, you did not ask for any of this. That said, use this diagnosis to heal yourself.

Paul

My doctor still does not recognise I have border personality disorder, she wasn’t the one that told me. It was the psychiatrist whom I’ve seen twice via Telehealth that told me...he told me he diagnosed me the first visit aug 2019 which the doctor failed to do, I’ve been having treatment for ptsd as that’s all she recognises I have even though the psychiatrist told her otherwise so she is hardly going to be any use applying for the pension is she?

I don’t have irrational thinking, how people treat you over time is how I think about things...most people treat me like a fool, eg the doctor. My psychologist is the only one who treats me as a human...and the doctor couldn’t even inform her my aug 2019 diagnosis. Yes I still have ptsd but the other is more significant and needs more work. Out of all the mh issues I would not want border personality disorder... people confuse it with bipolar as this has happened here with another person just presuming that’s what I had. Look, it’s ok I’m a nobody, I get it that I’m poor and don’t amount to anything. I just hope I’m a lesson to someone who may have kids one day and hope the parents do the right thing and the child doesn’t go through any shit because of the parents..

The psychiatrist has also told me he thinks i will have it for the rest of my life, he said he has seen some changes in people but I wonder if they have someone who loves them, even if it was only in the formative years. Trauma affects the way the brain develops and when there is significant history it gets complex. I’ve had to parent myself and it’s obvious I have not done it properly, how do you do it when you’ve had no examples anyway?

If someone is reading this and think they are like me please find someone to help you, don’t turn out like me.

Hi Delectable

Did you know, PTSD and BPD commonly co-occur. Evidently 25-60% of people with BPD also have PTSD.

It is not uncommon for physicians to disagree with each other; they are not gods; they are not perfect. That is something you need to keep in mind.

As far as your diagnosis goes, I can see two big problems, from what you have shared:

1. Your GP doctor, is probable not the best person to assess MH issues.
2. A diagnosis from a psychiatrist that you have seen twice via telehealth, is probably not that reliable.

In regard to you phycologist, your doctor probably did the right thing by not informing her about your BPD diagnosis in Aug of 2019. If your doctor had mentioned the BPD diagnosis, that would influence your phycologist's thinking. I would suggest that you doctor wanted an independent, impartial and unbiased diagnosis from your phycologist. Think about that for a while; the keyword is unbiased.

I hope this opens up another line of thought for you.

Paul

It was my psychologist/ social worker that asked for the pysch review as she was the one that suggested I had the traits, and she is not qualified to make the diagnosis. I cannot afford to see a psychiatrist in person, there are no concessions if you’re unemployed. The Telehealth is the only funded in the area I live. You’re allowed one free visit per year. My psychologist/ social worker feels she isn’t helping me, she said if I have bpd I would need DBT through community health, something I’d rather not do, I don’t like group therapy, I rather one on one. I’m wanting less contact with people day by day, it’s easier as it prevents long term hurt and disappointment for me, therefore I do not wish to discuss my problems with others in group therapy as it’s private and I don’t need or want other people beside professionals knowing.

My gp is a register, we don’t have bulk billing here for qualified doctors so I guess that’s my own fault since I do t have $40 spare per visit to see a qualified doctor. My gp is a new Australian and doesn’t understand how to do things, yesterday she said I can’t have blood tests and a mental health care plan on the same day. So I took my results and will go to another gp and get the plan from there, I’m over being treated like a nobody. I have been advised if you’re poor and of no one of notably then you are treated like a nobody, well I’ve done my time and frankly don’t have the patience for any more treatment like that, what for anyway to achieve what I have which is just going around in circles.

Ok, I think I've got the story now:

1. You have a foreign GP, that is not sure which way is up - her guess was PTSD
2. You have had two Telehealth sessions with a psychiatrist - he thinks you have BPD
3. You are seeing a social worker that suspects BPD, but in not qualified to make a diagnosis

I can see the confusion. Yes, I would go to another GP and get a "mental health care plan". Hopefully that will lead you a phycologist that can at least diagnose the problem. You can't treat a MH disorder until you know what you are dealing with.

If it does turn out to be BPD, it's not the end of the world. DBT/CBT treatment through community health is better than no treatment at all.

Actually my old social worker from 6 years ago diagnosed me with ptsd, I have never had a diagnosis from a doctor.

I won’t be going to community health, I’ve done group therapy when I was in my teens for all my teens and I don’t like it for the reasons stated before. I will ask my current social worker who I see on the 3 February for a dbt book to work from at home...I want to be by myself from now on for reasons stated before..besides I don’t fit with others and I’m too different, I’m tired of rude people staring at me like I’m some type of freak...I’ve got 11.5 months to go..to hopefully I can go home for good, would rather be a freak in a country I feel connected to then one I don’t.

Thanks for caring,

There are no bulk billing psychologists here either, only social workers. I’m on jobseeker, don’t have much money after I pay $510 a fortnight in rent, I therefore go without heating and cooling and I walk everywhere except when I help old people as it’s a 40km trip one way..too far too walk.

Ok, the updated story is:

1. An old social worker from 6 years ago thinks you have PTSD
2. You have a foreign GP, that is not sure which way is up - no diagnosis
3. You have had two Telehealth sessions with a psychiatrist - he thinks you have BPD
4. You are seeing a social worker that suspects BPD

In regard to your "mental health care plan", you said that there were no bulk billing psychologists in your area. Can you do tele-sessions with a psychologist that does bulk bill?

Here is an outfit that will provide 30 free Medicare subsidised sessions with a phychologist a year. I imagine they will need a mental health care plan from a GP.

https://www.remotetherapy.com.au/

To get in, you may have to wait for an appointment or go elsewhere. My point is, there are any number of free online phycologists out there. You just have to track one down.

Paul

Ok. I only have mobile phone internet, no webcam or zoom. I like my social worker, the psych said talking therapy is the best for me....

I’m more then happy to keep seeing her with a hard version of a dbt book....

You can do your remote sessions over the phone; no internet required.

Your social worker might be good for local support.

If you want more, talk to someone that can help. You can do all the "talking therapy" you want, over the phone.

You have options; use them!

Paul

I never said I don’t have a problem, I’ve always said I’m different. Since you have never suffered from MH you have no idea what’s it’s like, I’m sick of people saying we like being the way we are. It’s not like we asked for this. It’s important to me I have someone I like, I’ve had plenty in my teens I didn’t like and it was compulsory as a state ward to do it, I found it a bad negative experience and something I’ll never do again.

I have stated several times I want nothing to do with people, I know I’m the problem, I have been since birth, so please don’t make assumptions about me.

I saw my social worker today, she is going to help me by teaching me how to communicate with people, something taken for granted for those of you that had parents and taught you the simple things. You may not agree that’s right for me but I like her and want to stick with her long term. She tells me I’m not like her bdp other patients, I don’t go to emergency department or create drama...I have stepped up my exercise and am doing things I missed out on as a child/teenager. I’ve joined tennis, it costs $2 per week and I’m back to dance two nights a week which is being paid for out of my food money, it’s too hot here to eat. Going to be 43 at the end of the week. I received the psychiatrist letters and have changed gp, my social worker will teach me, it won’t be dbt, it will be the approach like teaching a child even though I’m 48. I hope those of you reading do not give up on Sleepy, she is such a worthwhile person as one can see from the comments on her post. I ask any of you if you wish to say something, follow it through all the way to me. Yes I’m a black and white thinker, it’s hard to change after years of trauma. I know I do not matter to people here and that’s ok. I have a long history of trauma of various types, death, violence, rape, alcoholism from birth to 17. It’s a wonder I’m still alive, a few people say they are proud of how I’ve turned out with all the obstacles thrown at me. Yes, I know I’m abnormal and highly sensitive but putting it there not for people to trigger me if they comment or just throw me on the too hard basket.