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Topic: My husband now thinks he wants to be a female.

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  1. Miilo
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    2 September 2020

    Hi everyone.

    I found this forum yesterday and I would like to get some advice for my situation.

    I've been married for 10 years and two young children, living happily before my husband started taking counselling due to his growing up background. I haven't expected anything with his counselling but one day he came to me he found out he has some gender identity issue. He then referred to hormone specialist and having a couple of appointments so far.

    One day, he came home with some tablets the doctor gave him which contain female hormone in them. The one is acne remedies and the other one is estrogen. When I talked to him what he would like to be in the future, but he keeps saying he is not sure, but as soon as I saw the tablet, I thought he want to be a female. I was shocked.

    He also found that he has Asperger syndrome around same time he found issue with gender identity, so after I was told I started depression and sleepless night from then. I had some phone counselling for myself because this is going to be a big challenge for both of us, and I need to make sure about my children too.

    My counselor told me I can't make any decision for him, so all I can do is relax and live a daily life for now which was make sense. I want to respect his decision but at the same time, I sometimes think if I should leave him. The reason I think that way is this situation is definitely not I was expected and it's kind of sad I can't have romantic relationship with loving husband anymore. It seems like it's all ended. (I'm mid thirty anyway.)

    I find sometimes difficult to communicate with him but he is gentle and nice person. It looks like my daily life filled with happiness is collapsed and now I'm in the darkness ALONE with a big secret I have to keep inside of me.

    These days, I noticed he started shaving his body and I found an epilator in his room. Yes, he is moving forward without letting me know. I have no courage to talk about this topic right now because I am afraid to find out more things which will make me a shock again. I don't want to tell this to my parents, friends or children just yet because I am not ready to talk.

    Because of this COVID situation, my children are staying home everyday even when I feel like to be alone thinking about these things but they never allow me to do so. I want to be a good mother smiling in the house but these days, it's just hard and feeling down.

    Anyways, I would like someone to connect in the same boat if it's possible.

    Thanks.

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  2. smallwolf
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    2 September 2020 in reply to Miilo

    hi Miilo and welcome to beyond blue.

    I am sorry but that I not in the same boat. I also do not want your story to disappear and I am hopeful that someone will reply who is "in the same boat".

    That said...

    I only know of one couple where the husband did as your appears to be doing and that is becoming a female. This couple are still together but went through some tough times.

    It is also a bit upsetting that your husband feels that he cannot speak to you about this. There are many reasons why so I cannot guess. Part of me thinks that you are also on this journey? Your feeling on the issues are also natural in this situation. Though I don't know the impact this would have romantically for you.

    And in this time you might also be looking for some support? If you do google search for,,,

    support for partners of transgender

    you should be able to find some sites or groups that give you some support. Please try to be kind to yourself also. When you are ready to talk ... In the meantime if you want to chat, I will listen and respond as I can. I hope you come back and tell little more about yourself.

    Tim

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  3. brian23
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    18 September 2020 in reply to Miilo

    Nobody decides to be transgender, or chooses this life. It is difficult for everybody involved, but chiefly, it is difficult for the person that you have known as your husband. Most individuals who are transgender have known this from a young age, and without education to help them understand their impulses, live in painful denial. We do not choose to suffer, or to make others suffer. If a person is motivated to transition, they are doing so because they are in an extreme amount of pain otherwise, and there is no other choice. My heart breaks for you, that society has prevented your partner from transitioning earlier, and so you both face this challenge partway through your marriage. It is a devastating consequence of a deeply transphobic society, which did not allow your partner the knowledge which could have allowed "him" to transition to "her" earlier.

    It's important to note that not all couples break up because one partner transitions. It depends greatly from circumstance to circumstance. Couples therapy and open communication is essential, if you are to get through this. Your mental health matters, and so does theirs. Your partner should be talking with you, and you should be working together to make a decision regarding your children's future.

    Here are some resources/stories that might help you:

    Here is an allies/family support network:

    https://transcendaus.org/

    Here is a support network for families of transgender people:

    https://transfamilysite.wordpress.com/

    Here is a Facebook page for partners of transgender people:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/380318889000771/about/

    Here is the story of Janet Rice and Penny Whetton. They married before Penny transitioned to female, but stayed together. This was before marriage equality in Australia.

    https://youtu.be/SVSiEAszFk4

    Here is a page about transgender people, with information to learn more.

    https://www.transresearch.org.au/allies

    I would also suggest watching the movie A Danish Girl, which is dramatised, but nonetheless you may relate to it.

    You might stay with your partner, you might not. I wish I could give you a hug. This is a difficult time. I would seriously suggest attending therapy, both alone and with your partner. You fell in love with a man, so there is mourning which will occur. Your partner should be opening up to you. A marriage is a partnership.

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    19 September 2020 in reply to Miilo

    Hello Miilo, and a warm welcome to the forums.

    Whether or not your husband wants to change sex and become a female is not so much the issue here, although it is very important, however, it's how you and the children are going to accept it or not.

    Any doubt he has maybe is how you, the children, your family and friends are going to react and in turn behave.

    It's a major decision because it will change everything and if you are diametrically opposed to this situation.

    This is something you need to talk with a counsellor because basically there wiill be 2 females running the family.

    All the best and please get back to us.

    Geoff.

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  5. Lillylane
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    1 October 2020 in reply to Miilo

    Hi Miilo

    You’re not alone and I’m glad you’ve posted here. Your situation is so similar to mine.

    It can feel very lonely to struggle with something you can’t tell others about (yet), so it’s a good thing you’ve reached out here in a caring non-judgemental environment.

    About 18 months ago my husband (with the help of a psychologist) realised he has been experiencing gender dysphoria for a long time. Shortly after this realisation, he told me he wanted to start transitioning.

    I had very little idea what it all meant and I read up as much as I could about gender identity, gender dysphoria, and personal journeys of people who have transitioned.

    He still goes by ‘he’ for now until he feels ready to tell his wider family, workplace and friends.

    Perhaps I had been naïve in not really anticipating any change our relationship. This is what shook me up the most and it’s been very painful for both of us. We’ve both had counselling.

    You mentioned your husband starting hair removal etc without telling you. It’s likely he fears what your reaction will be if he shares these things with you. Let him know you are there to listen - though I totally understand it’s not easy when you’ve only recently found out.

    As he opens up to you, I hope he will recognise that you need support too.

    Is there a trusted close friend you could talk to in confidence? I was extremely nervous about telling my friend, but it really helped me to get my feelings out.

    I found the Gender Centre very helpful. They have this factsheet specifically for partners - it goes into detail. I would recommend taking a look.

    Look under Resources > Factsheets > Family and Friends Information Kit > Support for partners

    https://gendercentre.org.au/resources/kits-fact-sheets/family-friends?download=97:support-for-partners

    Thank you again for sharing. It’s helped me to know I’m not the only one out there. Hope to hear from you again.

    L.

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  6. Fede
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    23 November 2020

    Hi Miilo and hi Lillylane. I am sorry that I can't relate first hand to your experience but you have my support. I am gay and perhaps this small input might add to your understanding.

    I was always confused about my sexual orientation until I decided to date someone of my own gender to see if that would help me understand myself better. This was when I was 24 years old. I was never homophobic and I was not raised in a particularly homophobic environment, but it took me more than 10 years to realize I was gay. Not because I kept on denying it, but because implicitly there was no room for gay people in society. I was not afraid of coming out, but the only thing that kept me from doing it so was to realize that being gay is ok. I had to come out to myself! I have been gay since I can remember without even knowing it, and if someone would have said: "hey, you know that to be gay is as ok as being hetero, right?", then I would have come out much earlier. When the whole world tells us (by default) that what we are is wrong, we will naturally second-guess ourself and suppress it. It might have taken most of their life to your husbands to come out to themselves, before coming out to others. I can confidently say, it's not your fault, not their fault, and the best thing you can do is to accept the overwhelming truth and to communicate it to your husbands: "hey, you know that to not feel identified with your gender is as ok as to be gay or to be hetero or cisgender, right?". Please keep an open mind, the way to move forward in this situation is to accept the fact that a person that does not feel identified with their gender is normal, and most likely (knowing or not fully knowing) they have not felt identified with their birth gender since they became aware what genders are (in childhood). I'm Argentinian, but I'm living in Australia. Back in Argentina, the government passed a law more than 5 years ago stating that people should be able to express what gender they identify with in legal documents, and since people have the right to transition, this Law also makes sure that the transitioning medication and procedures (if the person needs them) are covered by every health insurance provider as well as by the Argentinian version of medicare. I hope that this is a useful example on how important it is to acknowledge to the other person that their struggle with gender identity is not only their right but also a hurdle that they have had to put up with all their life.

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  7. Lillylane
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    24 November 2020 in reply to Fede
    Hi Fede,

    Thank you so much for replying. And a warm welcome to the forum.

    I very much appreciate what you have written here, as there are many similarities with my partner’s experience. And I think your post will help many people.

    Yes it’s so true that my partner had to come out to herself before telling others. And that in itself was so difficult and very scary for her.

    What you’ve written here sums it up it up perfectly:

    When the whole world tells us (by default) that what we are is wrong, we will naturally second-guess ourself and suppress it.

    Such an important point!

    I really hope we see Australia catch up with other countries such as Argentina in regards to medicare covering transition medications and procedures.

    My partner is a few months into her transition and has come out to close family. She feels she’ll soon be ready to come out to others. She will continue to need support and has up and down days, but she’s so relieved to be where she is now.
    Our relationship has changed (she identifies as gay and I as straight). But we still care for each other and remain under one roof as a family.

    How are you doing at the moment? I hope you have a good support network around you. I’ve found this forum so supportive and helpful.

    Thanks again and hope we get to chat again.

    Lillylane
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  8. Lonelylittleloser
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    14 December 2020 in reply to Miilo
    Hi Miilo,
    I hope you are doing okay, finding out a life partner wants to transitioning or is transitioning to another gender must be difficult. I am a transgender female, I've lived this way for a decade and known I felt more comfortable since I were 16.

    I don't want to seem horrible, but it's important that you put your feelings and mental health first. Having a partner change gender must be confusing for your own sexuality. I hope you don't feel pressured to hide any feelings you have towards these changes. As a transgender person, I would never expect a partner to understand or feel totally comfortable if I transitioned after we fell in love and began a life together. I would never put a partner or children through that. My mum is also transgender, so I understand the effects of transition on families from multiple perspectives. Please look after yourself and best wishes.
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  9. Lonelylittleloser
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    14 December 2020 in reply to Miilo
    I'd love a perfect world where everybody feels comfortable all the time. Unfortunately that's not reality. Gender transition comes with consequences. Unfortunately, we also live in a fairly conservative society. As a transgender person, I feel comfortable to say that none of my peers should expect partners or their children to understand or fully accept their gender transition. It completely changes the family dynamic. Gender dysphoria is definitely real. I know that. I also know that it just doesn't come out of nowhere. Trust is important in any intimate relationship, I hope you can find that with your husband/wife.
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  10. Lillylane
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    15 December 2020 in reply to Lonelylittleloser

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Everything you’ve said, I’ve really needed to hear.

    I realise your reply was to Miilo, and I too hope Miilo you are doing ok. I often look back to this thread and wonder how things are going for you.

    Best wishes,

    Lillylane.

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  11. BellaB2
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    Hey Miilo

    Im so sorry to all you are struggling..I just find myself in the same path..

    How are you?? How was these past months??

    I just want to be supportive for my husband, i understand that this is very hard to be, to live. But i woke up felling so bad, and spend most of my nights crying. Its like my marriage is dying...and my heart is so hurt..i love him so much and want him to be happy, to found himself, and know that is important to be thruthful with what he belives will make him happy.

    But i can't see myself happy with his change. He started to take his hormones, without telling me. He is shaving his body, getting thinner so he will looks good in women's clothes.

    Its so difficult to be supportive, when your heart is being crushed. All your dreams, to have babies, to travel...just vanishing...

    I fell that i pick wrong..that i should see this coming...

    Im sorry...

    I hope thruthfully that you fell stronger and happy.

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    18 July 2021 in reply to BellaB2

    Hi BellaB2,

    Thanks for your post. I’m in the same situation as you so I thought to say hello and hope I can be of some support.

    If you feel comfortable, you may even like to start your own thread so that others see it and can support you.

    I can hear you are in a lot of emotional pain and I totally understand.

    Though you clearly love your husband and want to support him, at the same time you did not see this major change in your relationship coming.

    I’ve also struggled with this as well. My partner has been on hormones for about a year.

    When did you first find out your husband wants to transition? Have you been able to talk to anyone about it?

    Here for you any time you’d like to talk.

    Take care, you’re not alone in this.

    Lillylane

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  13. BellaB2
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    19 July 2021 in reply to Lillylane

    Thank you so much, for your reply.

    I could not talk to anybody about this, so i was relieved that you reach out fo me. He is starting, about a month. Says that he loves me and want me to be with him. But i don't think I can.

    Fells like im the support that he need. Want to talk about clothes, hair, boobs and I don't like to talk about these things, don't have in me. I feel shame, think about my son (12 years old), who loves my husband and look at him for father and man figure. Most of the time its just sadness cause I feel im losing him.

    Thank you so much, for listening to me.

  14. Jo8049
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    19 July 2021 in reply to BellaB2

    Hi BellaB2 , you are very brave to post here , we all care very very much . I am a trans woman , there is no shame to be had so you don't have to have shame or guilt either! .

    Kids are open minded and consider gender diversity quite normal these days , which it is !

    Please use BB 1300 22 46 36 line ( 24/7 ) so you can talk with a compassionate human who will be able to help or guide you to help . There is absolutely no shame in any of this change in your life .

    Jo W

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    21 July 2021 in reply to BellaB2

    Thank you for reaching out here, it’s a really good step in getting some support.

    It can be hard to bottle up these feelings so I hope you might be able to open up to someone in your life. Helplines were vital for me, because I needed to vent my feelings, and I felt so stressed.

    Do you have a trusted GP? They can also be good to talk to about your situation and what can help support you.

    I have a couple of young kids too. Once they were reassured that my partner wasn’t going anywhere, they were very accepting. We all needed time to adjust and to change habits (using a different name for my partner, and ‘she/her’.

    Some couples stay together, some don’t. There is no judgement either way.

    But you don’t have to decide straight away.

    The best advice I received is to give things time. Give yourself time.

    Take care, we are always here to talk.

    Lillylane

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  16. Miilo
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    Hi everyone.

    It's been a while I posted here and I thank all the comments so much.

    I will update some of my situation. After I talked to my husband I want to support him even though he decided to be a female but he refused my offer. I think he wants to start his own new life but I could see he is still loving me and our beautiful kids.

    Now, we are separated for nearly 10 months and he is transferring to female little by little. He came out to everyone around him including his work, friends and his family. He looks very comfortable now being who he is and I'm happy with that. Of course I have mixed feelings when he sent me pics dressing up in a floral dress, wearing make up, etc. However, I try to hide my feelings for HER and my kids. We even went to a family trip like we used to do. I'm start to coping it but at the same time, I feel like I try not to look into my own feelings. It's easier to hide my feelings and moving forward for now.

    I was struggle to accept the fact being a single mum and we are now talking about what to do with our family home. The house we bought together to have a future with. This will be my toughest challenge ever because so much emotions with it. Also, it will affect kids too if I decided to sell it and move out for somewhere.

    Anyways, I am so happy that there are people who listen to me and support me in here. I think I will need someone local to have a counseling with especially until I settle down with the house selling process.

    Please take care everyone :)

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  17. Jo8049
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    3 September 2021 in reply to Miilo

    Hugs Miilo , ( as many as you want ) and so much love to all of you there .

    Thank you for posting , we all care very very much . I so hope you find comfortable very very soon so you can rest a bit . Much love and hugs from us !

    Jo ❤

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    6 September 2021 in reply to Miilo

    Hi Miilo,

    Thanks so much for updating us here and it’s great to hear from you!

    Sounds like you and your husband have been through a lot. I understand it’s very painful thinking about selling the family home.

    I hope you find a good counsellor. So important that you feel supported too.

    My husband (I now refer to her as my partner, though even that doesn’t feel totally accurate) stopped wearing her wedding ring, as it obviously looks like a men’s ring. So I no longer wear mine.

    We try our best to look after our family however we are no longer in love. We’ve talked about divorce but haven’t moved forward with that yet. I think we are both dreading it. Yet being married doesn’t feel right either.

    I hope time will help and make the path forward a bit clearer.

    Big hugs to you, and everyone reading on this thread.

    LL

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  19. Miilo
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    6 September 2021 in reply to Lillylane

    Hi Jo8049 and Lillylane.

    Thank you so much for your comment. Lillylane, I totally understand your feeling. I was like that before deciding our separation. So I now think it was good he made his decision to leave us even though it was really hard to accept it at that time. I think I couldn't make the decision for myself because I wanted to save our marriage, at the same time I was sure our love was gone... I hope you are doing well and figure out what's the best for you and your partner :)

    Stay safe everyone!

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  20. Lassie2
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    20 September 2021 in reply to Miilo

    Hi Miilo, LillyLane and BellaB2,

    My heart goes out to you all. I am in the early stages of working through all of this with my husband at the moment. We have good days and bad days. I love him so much and only want what is best for him and for him to be happy. He is hoping he can find some middle ground where he can still be male, but have an outlet for his feminine side... but I just feel like it is inevitable that he will eventually want to transition permanently. Like you BellaB2 he says he loves me and can't do life without me and I feel the same way, except on this current trajectory, I kind of feel like I've already lost him. If we stay together, he won't be the same person that I married, and I'm not sure I will still be attracted to him anymore. If we break up I will lose him that way too. Falling out of love is probably my biggest fear. He is my best friend.

    Up until now we have also been trying to have a family together, but I don't know if I should put the brakes on that for now until we have a clearer picture of what our future looks like, but I'm 34 and really want kids and a family. I dunno. What a mess. Sorry for offloading here. I am going to start seeing a psychologist soon, so I'm hoping that will help too.

    Thanks for listening :) Lassie2

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  21. Lillylane
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    21 September 2021 in reply to Lassie2

    Hi Lassie2,

    Welcome to the forums! So glad you posted and thank you for sharing your situation.

    I can definitely understand the difficult questions around the future and family. Part of my challenge is accepting that our future doesn’t look anything like I thought, or planned for.

    I find it hard to think ‘outside the box’ sometimes so talking to other people helps me get my feelings out, and maybe think of things I hadn’t considered before.

    Thank you again, I hope the psychologist is helpful in the journey forward. I understand this isn’t easy and there’s ‘ups’ and ‘downs’ along the way.

    Thanks to all on this thread for a supportive place to share xx

    LL

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    21 September 2021 in reply to Lillylane

    Hello Everyone,

    I have just finished reading the entire thread. You have All been through so much and I can only say that I take my hat to you All and commend you for your incredible strength, patience and willingness to try to make some sort of sense for all parties included. Whatever is your part in the scenario, you are All doing an amazing job.

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  23. James is here
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    Hi Miilo,

    I know this is an old post, but there is a support group in Australia that I am part of that has many partners and ex partners of trans gendered people. The organisation is called OurPath:

    https://ourpath.org

    OurPath is an LGBTI affirming organisation that has been helping straight spouses and partners of trans people navigate the challenges of having a gay or trans partner since 1986. If you fill out the contact form there, you will be connected with the Australian contingent of the organisation, where you will be able to get support from fellow Australians who are going through the same thing as you are going through.

    All the best.

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    6 October 2021 in reply to James is here

    Hi James is here

    Thank you so much for information on the support group! it’s much appreciated!

    Thank you Learn to Fly too for your kinds words of support.

    Hope all here are doing ok.

    One day my partner and I are getting extremely irritated with each other and I don’t know how we are going to manage this all. Next day we have a laugh like old friends and seem to soften a bit.

    Confusing times. But hoping we can each heal and move forward.

    Best wishes,

    LL

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  25. He1p1e55
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    17 October 2021 in reply to Miilo
    Hi Miilo I would love to connect with you I am in exactly the same situation but my husband is in denial about what he really wants he has ocd and has been this way since he was very young although I only found out a couple of years ago and we have been together 13 years married for 8. I am finding it hard to keep this facade of a happy marriage going but he won't just back off and just be friends. Any advice on where you have gone with All of this would be so helpful
  26. Learn to Fly
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    17 October 2021 in reply to He1p1e55

    Hello He1p1e55 and All,

    A very warm welcome to the forum and thank you for reaching out.

    I hope you don’t mind me asking you All: have you tried seeing a counsellor as a couple as well as individuals? This is such a complex issue, so many aspects to discuss, discover, come to terms with, accept or not, etc And it’s so important to acknowledge both parties and what both partners are going through. Your posts are the best example of how confused, hurt and lost you might feel.
    I am also asking because sometimes even if the subject is openly and calmly discussed among a couple a counsellor might help both partners in opening and discussing things that might otherwise stay hidden and obstructing the process of trying to work the things out.
    Again, thank you for your post. Here to chat.

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    17 October 2021 in reply to Miilo

    Hi Miilo,

    Thank you for reaching out here and I'm sorry you are going through a really challenging time. It sounds like you have been put in a really difficult situation and you don't know how to approach it. It must be difficult being with someone for quite some time then realising that things have changed. It's good that you are seeing a counsellor to help you through the emotions that you are feeling during this challenging time. I think you need some time to process all what has happened and when you are ready i think you will be able to make a decision and eventually tell everyone about it. You are doing a great job being there for him and also for your children, but don't be too hard on yourself, no one is perfect and it's ok to be upset about the situation. Lockdowns will end very soon and you will have more time on your hands to think about all these changes and maybe you will find peace soon.

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