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Topic: Coping during the Coronavirus outbreak

  1. blondguy
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    9 April 2021 in reply to randomx

    Hey RX :-)

    always great to see you!.. the aussies just dont get it...and yes the the chances of blood clots are rare as you mentioned RX

    At least Canada has restricted the AstraZeneca vaccine to under 55's. Yet we havent had a pandemic since 1918....103 years ago so its uncharted territory ....Hope you are doing okay RX

    Paul

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    9 April 2021 in reply to blondguy

    Hi Paul and others

    I applaud the Australian authorities ability to respond to new data and the decision to revise our vaccine advice.

    However, I find it strange that different countries are restricting the Astra Zeneca vaccine to different age groups.

    At present, Britain under 30s, Australia under 50s, Canada under 55s, Germany under 60s will be offered a different vaccine. One would assume governments worldwide have access to the same data, so why is the risk profile different all over the world?

    I’ve heard a number of experts answer this question along the lines of “it’s a reflection of local circumstances”. Don’t really get that.

    As a woman in her mid fifties, just trying to keep an open mind and gather information at this point. I really want to make the best decision when the time that I’m offered a vaccine comes.

    Kind thoughts to all

  3. randomx
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    9 April 2021 in reply to Summer Rose

    Hi all and thanks Paul.

    Yeah yesterday our leading something or other laid out the odds and numbers and it was ridiculously so slight , even the pill and a lot of other everyday meds we've been using for yrs were riskier even the flu shot soooo, anyone's guess. But typical media though ,in the very next story was that 16 people in Europe dying from Astra and about all the new restrictions they'd placed sooooo, as usual , l'm about as clear as mud with all that.

    l probably won't even bother anyway myself l live in one of the lowest covid areas in the country and if the other 26mil Aussies get a shot why would l need one, no one will have covid anyway- there's the rx kinda logic haha. So for me it's mainly about our health workers and elderly , and down the line from there. Not to mentioned getting the country opened up again.

    rx

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    9 April 2021 in reply to randomx
    I am concerned about the vaccine changes. It seems that we're just going to remain isolated for ever or risk ongoing lockdowns because there is such a tiny chance of a serious side effect of the vaccine. I have a daughter who wants to come home but can't because no one will offer her a job when she can't get a flight back to Australia. Now the vaccine rollout has stopped any chance of seeing her or my sister who was booked to visit last year. I can't plan anything due to the risk of outbreaks causing lockdowns with no end in sight.
  5. randomx
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    10 April 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Yeah it's ridiculously over kill. Other countries remained open some right through others up until 100s of 1000s of cases . But then l suppose that right there could be said as well that's why they ended up with 100s of 1000s too, so l don't know , it's a confusing business. But to not let even family come home or leave is def' over kill.

    All l know is the pm was bragging about having 120mill vacs coming 4mths ago , l mean it just sounded more ridiculous and pure greed , with what the rest of the worlds going though compared. But still , 4mths later and they're saying we only have 500k , then a million , then 200k, or some rubbish they change it every day. No wonder the EU is blocking us though l still can't believe Australia was expecting them in the state they're in , to send us 120mill , l say again just a bloody embarrassment. Anyway today they said they'd conned the US into 120mill- more greed , of the phizer. But again , fancy asking the US right now , for 120mill , when they have 14million cases and 350mill people , we have none and only 26mill people , l just mean , yaknow. Couldn't show a bit of consideration and only ask for 25mill and use the astra as well for older people no no , he asks for 120mill, and with the state the US is in.

  6. Moonstruck
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    11 April 2021 in reply to randomx

    Yeah we're having a bit of "overkill" here in Queensland too...after Anna's no warning 3 day lockdown weeks ago...he rest of us in regional centres, like mine which hasnt had a covid case since the whole saga began.....we have to wear masks until...think it's this Thursday......all last year when hysteria was at its peak...never, ever, did we have to wear masks.....now we do.....make sense of that if you can!

    friend went to the cinema yesterday. everyone had their masks on in the foyer, walked in sat down, next to one another and promptly removed the mask to eat their popcorn! We have to wear one in a bar, sit down with friends, take mask off to drink, put mask back on to walk the few feet to the bar.....it's ridiculous!

    This inconsistency must be happening for a reason. those who think too clearly about all this,including now the vaccine drama, do their research, really examine closely the issues.....can become very very depressed and scared at what is gradually, slowly, happening before their eyes......the rest of us can't bear to contemplate it.....if something doesnt make sense to you....why do you believe and accept it without examination?

  7. randomx
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    12 April 2021 in reply to Moonstruck

    l Don't believe any of the bull they spin us haven't right through there's been holes in everything from day one, which tend to show up later on anyway just like the vac . Even that, other countries have done 100s of millions in a mth or two , even India , and here's our clowns no not out medical people, our gov's of course , can't even take care of a fraction of 26mill yet.The inconstancy right through is just everything , nanny state oz l'm afraid. Oh well l'll givem one thing they did keep Covid out , well basically, anyway. Tho l'm a bit worried at what cost and will all their new found control to nanny extremism roll back when it's all over , or how much of it will they just leave in place and Australians won't even notice anyway is my worry.

    The movie things pretty weird , as in pointless then isn't it. You guys shouldn't even need masks anyway.

  8. SD0102
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    14 April 2021

    It’s been a while since I’ve posted but I’ve being feeling very melancholy the last few days, and crying at the drop of a hat. I can’t really explain it, and I’ve been trying to get my head around why I’m feeling like this.

    I don’t whether it’s because 12 month’s ago I thought to myself, I can get through this, by this time next year we’ll be on top of Covid and sort of set that as my focus.

    I see the numbers overseas in some countries at all time highs, our vaccinations & rollout, seems to be in a pickle, and we still have the constant threat of lockdown until this is all sorted.

    This lack of uncertainty and having our goal posts constantly changing, I think is what I am struggling with. I feel we can’t make plans too far in advance or book anything because we never know what is going to happen. I don’t think I would be comfortable travelling overseas again except maybe to NZ, but for those who are it’s now looking like 2024.

    My husband and I are keen to start travelling and seeing different places around Australia, but with borders still being able to be closed at short notice, I’m not comfortable to even do this.

    I hope by trying to put my feelings down in words, it might help.

    Thank you.

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    14 April 2021 in reply to SD0102
    Your post mirrored my feelings. I have 2 children in the UK one of whom was applying for jobs back here so she could return but now that is impossible. Noone will offer her a job when she can guarantee when she can fly home. My sister lives in the US and was booked to visit last year. Now it seems like they'll never make it . Other countries like the UK & US have been effective in getting the vaccines rolled out and the numbers of covid cases have dropped drastically amongst those vaccinated. Yet we seem to have no plan other than hope there isn't another outbreak. Planning any travel other than close by is too risky with potential border closures.
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  10. SD0102
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    21 April 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Normal ? What is normal ? Will things ever be normal again ?

    Two break outs in hotel quarantine in NSW, one in NZ just as the Trans Tasman bubble opens.

    This is certainly the disease that keeps on giving.

    Will we ever be able to go out, without signing in, hand sanitising at the entry to every place we enter, worrying about whether the tables we sit at have been cleaned properly, is there a risk of catching Covid & passing it on, etc etc etc

    I am so envious of the people who can just go out, without worrying about all these things constantly. For me it’s not that simple. Don’t get me wrong, all the extra hand sanitising, I believe has been helpful in reducing other germs being spread around also. I just mean, sometimes it all gets a bit overwhelming.

    In regards to vaccines, I don’t know where I stand ? I’ve had all of my other vaccinations & flu and didn’t think twice about having them. Have we rushed these vaccines, are they safe ? So many questions. I also took the contraceptive pill, which I now believe has more potential side affects such as blood clots & risks then the Covid vaccine ? But I still took it, did I question my Doctor, no I just assumed is was ok, as so many other ladies took it.

    With so much media attention about Covid, it is so hard to separate the truth & facts, from the media hype. I try to only read articles which I believe are from trusted sources but sometimes I become a bit sceptical.

    I really can’t see us returning to pre Covid normal until at least the end of next year, if there will ever be such a thing again.

    I think I just put so much emphasis last year on , this time next year it will be all good, and it’s not, that it’s really affected me. So now I just need to concentrate on re-focusing and making a new realistic goal.

    Hope everyone else is going ok.

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  11. randomx
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    22 April 2021 in reply to SD0102

    This whole vaccine dancing charade is a damn joke.

    26mill people , just wth. The Uk is 1/2 way through 85mill, lndia of all places has already done nearly 2million people , US is over half way through and will have the whole country 350mill vac'd by June. Yet our clowns have only managed a few 100 k but are up there on their pedestals day in n out still banging on about actually doing it, only 25mill.

    lt's laughable.

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  12. randomx
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    29 April 2021 in reply to randomx

    God l don't believe it .

    Now they're up on their pedestal bragging of how our athletes will be all vaccinated for the Olympic games , wth ???? ahhh, l would bloody hope so, there's only 4,000 of them. lf they can't even at least get them vaccinated by then , when other countries like the UK n US , Japan , China , Russian , have damn near finished 100s of millions of people already , wth is wrong with them . Yet they're up there gloating about it.

    As if you would even send of the best athletes in the country to compete against the world OS , without vaccinating anyway, l just mean what the.

    And now they're banging on about closing flights from lndia , ahh, wouldn't they have already been closed12mths now anyway , with the second or 3rd highest infection rate in the world . l mean no one else has been able to come or go or visit family or come home for 12mths- and now finally we have 1 travel bubble to NZ. So what are they even on about !

    rx

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  13. CalmCat
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    How everyone in Perth, WA, going?
  14. blondguy
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    2 May 2021 in reply to CalmCat

    Hi CalmCat

    I hope you have been doing well. If you wish to share your thoughts re Covid you are always welcome!

    Paul

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  15. SD0102
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    4 May 2021 in reply to randomx

    Yes we really seem to be lagging behind a lot of other countries in regards to our slow rollout of vaccinations. Hopefully with the new vaccine hubs there will be greater numbers now.

    I do think the media has a lot to answer for, with all of their hype, there is so much mis-information out there, that people just don’t know what to believe, and whether to have the vaccine or wait.

    I’m in two minds about returning travellers.

    One part of me is saying stop all incoming flights maybe for 6 months ? Until more of us are immunised. And I also believe that each state should have by now set up proper dedicated quarantine facilities (not within current hotels). Howard Springs in the NT seems to working the best. Hotel quarantine, at the moment is our weakest link in keeping the virus out of our communities.

    On the other hand, I do feel for those vulnerable people still stuck overseas through no fault of their own due to flight cancellations etc.

    I’m not very political, but I do feel for our politicians during this time, as your damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

    Take care everyone.

    SD

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    11 May 2021 in reply to SD0102

    Hi Guys,

    Is everyone okay with todays COVID developments in Melbourne?

    I'm sure will be okay and that the health department has it under control.

    Did everyone know that people with mental health conditions are eligible to get the vaccine? My friend got the vaccine due to having GA! I'm so glad that the government has including mental health in its vaccine rules! So Good!

    Looking forward to hearing from you all.

    Regards,

    cc

  17. randomx
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    11 May 2021 in reply to CalmCat

    Melb will be right , can't believe the fuss for one case . Other countries wouldn't believe it.

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  18. SapereAude
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    Hi everyone.

    Hope you are all coping okay presently. For those of you struggling, please reach out to Beyond Blue, your GP or confide in a friend of family member.

    Take care :)

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  19. golden82
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    17 May 2021 in reply to SapereAude
    It hurts when ppl say lines like reach out to a friend or family member. I do not have any... which is why i am how i am and post here. Please be aware of this before posting the usual throw away lines we hear so much. It does more harm than good even though u mean well.
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  20. Willo2020
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    Hi to all
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    Patrice well said
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    You aren’t helpless
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    17 May 2021 in reply to golden82

    Hi Golden82

    Thanks for the reminder that many community members are without support. Your words were really helpful to me.

    I’m sorry that you’re battling on alone but so glad you are here and that we can support you. Anything you want to talk about?

    And a big hello to Willo.

    Kind thoughts to all

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  24. mb20lover
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    17 May 2021 in reply to golden82

    hey golden.

    i'm EXACTLY the same as you. thank you for putting it into words, and saying it for yourself and people like me. thank you for understanding. i don't like when people say that stuff, it seems like it's pushing people away. i have a good Psychiatrist but i still struggle to tell him some stuff.

    you're right, it does do more harm for me. i appreciate you saying this. i'm sorry you're alone.

    i don't like how people tell me to use helplines too, because most of the time i never have a good experience, if i can ever get through without waiting over an hour. i know people are trying to help but it really doesn't help me sometimes.

    if i had friends or family, let alone ones that understood and cared, i would reach out to them.

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  25. golden82
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    17 May 2021 in reply to Summer Rose

    Hi summer rose,

    That's lovely. Thank you. I didn't want to come across harsh but it is reality sadly that so so many ppl are all alone. Or with someone but still alone. And so many times media, psychologists, helplines etc can just wash over this. It makes me mad. It is hard to be mad because ppl say they are only trying to help.. but it's sometimes not enough to me. Ppl need real connection. If they want it. Some ppl love being alone. That is great. But for those of us who try and try and still alone.. for me it is even christmas and easter etc.. it is a pain no-one should feel. I have 8yrs running; and so words can sometimes not be enough. I appreciate your genuine warmth and care for us all here. Always like reading your posts. I hope things are okay for you and yours summer rose x

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  26. mb20lover
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    sorry i forgot to write that i have supportive parents who know everything about me, my struggles, help me through, etc. but i meant other family members. sorry for not writing that
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    17 May 2021 in reply to golden82

    Hieveryone

    Feel similar to u Rx - will be okay. Still take care and be safe, all

    Hey Golden. I know what u mean.

    When ppl on helplines ask "So... do u have supportive family and friends," I feel like saying, well if i did, i'd be chatting to them, no? I don't have that and it makes me feel sometimes like no one can even fathom that fact.

    Sometimes they even ask if my mother is alive and near, assuming that if she were alive, I'd have her support. She's both those things but is unsupportive. This happens too. There are all kind of situations.

    Anyone who has been in the MH sphere would not be surprised. I see many ppl without family or friends support and know i'm not alone. But sometimes they speak to u as if they've never heard of such a thing, and ur an anomaly. I think it's quite common, unfrotunately. It's a sad reality for many and has been hard during covid times.

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  28. Gelati
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    17 May 2021 in reply to SapereAude

    Hello everyone :)

    I thought it also important to acknowledge the kindness that I felt sat behind SapereAude's post.

    No two individual circumstances are the same. Indeed, depending on one's situation, SA's suggestion may be timely guidance that sees someone get the help they need. However, equally, there are many of us who feel we do not have such support networks and who might find it more of a challenge to seek help through those channels. I've certainly felt this way at times and, at other times, in contrast, I have felt able to seek support - it varies, I've found, as does other people's understanding of what we are experiencing.

    We're all so different and our mental health journeys seem unique. That's why no guidance or advice can be suitable for everyone, I think.

    I've had moments where I have felt alone, with no one to turn to, but I found solace in writing my experiences in this forum and having wonderful people take the time to offer me their thoughts. I hope others find the same :)

    Whatever options you have available to find some level of comfort and wellness, I wish everyone well - to SA, and other posters, everyone.

    Gelati

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  29. randomx
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    18 May 2021 in reply to Gelati

    That is true too and nicely said Gelati

    Hiya mb and yeah you are right too l mean helplines can only do so much, can be more frustration than anything l know l found the same. l've talked around bb sometimes thankful for one that was really helpful but yeag few and far between and l just got lucky,. Not that most don't try but there's a def amount of click you need with a counselor or help line too and actually getting that person especially with a helpline is like winning lotto , l know. But then your 15mins is up anyway and it's oh well , thks , goodbye.

    Hi golden , and l'm sorry about the alone. l am pretty much myself too . The few people l do see every wk or two know nothing about my situation, things would probably all appear just fine actually. l know they wouldn't understand or really giva toss either though anyway so it's pointless going there .There's no one else really.One or two family that would probably just throw it in my face though next time they got pissed off so no use turning to them either.

    rx

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  30. Gelati
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    18 May 2021 in reply to randomx

    Hi rx,

    Thanks for sharing a bit about what you've experienced. I know what you mean about the need to click with whomever you're talking to - I have found in the past, when I have spoken with counsellors or psychologists, I simply didn't click with some of them. I couldn't always put my finger on it but for some reason I felt there was a disconnect or wall between us. But with others I have felt very comfortable. And relationships take some time to build, so I can see how a call to a stranger is possibly daunting. I felt that way calling my work's EAP last year during our lockdown - I didn't feel the right level of connection and understanding from the person I was paired with. Then my max.number of sessions was reached.

    I'm generally feeling less anxious in the last month with our covid situation here but I do feel some level of hopelessness seeing how long it could take for us to get out of this constant cycle of scares and threats of lockdowns and inability to plan holidays (escapes!). Also, I have my annual dental appointment this week - I have done some damage to my teeth from clenching them through the stress of last year - I'm really nervous and I just want today to be over :(

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