Thank you for your kind words. I think each of us needs to do whatever we can to keep each other safe regardless of the actual rules. That doesn't mean living like a hermit but going to less busy places. Spending time with friends outside rather than inside when possible. Wearing masks unless you have a valid exemption. Treat everyone with kindness and respect. That kind word could make a difference to someone on the edge to help them make a better choice rather than doing something stupid.

People I care about may be fired from their job, if they choose not to be vaccinated. People that need to provide for their families, their little ones. How is that for freedom of choice? Sounds like blackmail, bribery or coercion to me.

Employers offering discounts, free vouchers etc to employees if they chose to get the jab. Sounds like bribery to me.

Hey Shelleybelly!

You have been on the forums longer than I have and as always you speak from the heart :-)

Just my humble opinion....I would rather the vaccine be mandated than be comatose on a ventilator...

my kindest always

Paul

Dear Shelll

I felt exactly the same way early on when the vaccines started and there was talk of not being allowed to do things if not vaxed. I was adamant I wouldn't do it, wouldn't be forced just to live my life. When I saw there seriousness I started to change my mind. My yr 12 daughter can't attend school, my little miss not having social interaction and playing with friends, my son deferred uni. When I had my first jab I was angry and upset that I felt cornered. My son begged me to get it so we could have our lives back and be safe. I now feel I've done the right thing by protecting myself, my family and our hospital system (which is the reason for vaxing). In fact, I don't want to return to the office with unvaxed colleagues as they could pass it on to me, me to my family etc.

Shelll, I understand your feelings, I really do but I see how serious this is, the case numbers scare me and I don't want to be scared of myself or my kids stepping out the front door. I respect the wishes of those not wanting to be vaxed, but I don't want to be around them, just in case. Ido agree it sounds like bribery etc but I guess it has become so serious they see no other way to encourage people.

I hope none of your loved ones lose their jobs.

Cmf x

There definitely is a sad side to the mandate but I agree with you Paul.

I think the problem with the virus is how quickly itcspreads with people transmitting it before they even feel sick at all. Some seem to get very mild symptoms if any but can still spread it while others become extremely ill. My dtr had almost no symptons but friends of my other dtr almost died and suffer long term problems. It seems the only way to control this pandemic is vaccinations so we can get back to a more normal life and have hospitals that aren't overwhelmed. In my church along with many others we fasted and prayed for help in controling the pandemic to protect everyone. It seemed to me that the vaccine was an answer to our prayers. I understand not everyone will think this way. Getting vaccinated gave me a good feeling tbat I was doing my bit to protect not only myself but everyone I ccome in contact with. I was particularly keen to do whatever I could to avoid getting sick so I couldn't care for my hsb. I wanted to do all I could and then have the faith that God would then do the rest. I understand everyone sees things differently and we need to accept each other regardless of different points of view.

Hi Elizabeth, I like Ur last point. Accepting and caring for others.

Today I struggled a bit, not sure if it's opening up feels, triggers, etc. the traffic did depress me a bit.

I'm not sure what would be scarier at this point.

Not having closeness/ contact with others, or having contact with others. I guess I got used to this separation and distance.

Yeah , l notice Elizabeth you often talk about caring for others and looking after each other , it's a beautiful thing that we don't hear enough of in this country.

Hiya sleepy , l could imagine how bizarre it all must be feeling and the traffic alone l'm afraid l don't envy everyone down there one bit with that. Hate to sound selfish but l've for once often enjoyed trips we've had to do through or around Melb this last 18mths, if only they'd give me the whole road to myself all the time huh.

But yeah it is all very very strange and this reopening with still yet such numbers tbh , is a bit of a worry. l must admit l'm a little concerned for Vic right now and of course our medical people and hospitals. We wanna be free again but now that it's here and yet at this time it kinda feels like a very mixed blessing.

l got my second Vax last wk myself. l really wanted to wait the original 12 wks between the two tbh as l've read research shows it's much more effective which is pretty well common sense l'd say anyway. But then with reopening l've had this second vax sorta weighing around on my mind and it was already booked for 6wks so in the end l thought to hell with it, just get it.

So nice to see on the news so many people out there and celebrating after everything we've been through but admittedly , it was also pretty scary tbh.

rx

I find it hard to understand why people don't get vaccinated. I'm all for vaccines. Now that I've had mine I feel safe. And I'll get a booster next year. A couple of cafes I go to aren't allowing people to dine in as some staff aren't fully vaccinated. It's annoying when I turn up at 7am like this morning to be told that. The vaccines are our way out of this mess. Delta is so infectious. Keep well.

l don't understand what's going on with Dan.

18mths and he's had us locked up longer than any other city in the world but now it's like he woke up flipped a coin and suddenly with 2k cases a day he's pushing to the exact opposite extreme within wks.

Seems very strange with still so many cases suddenly just throwing the gates wide open within a wk or two. Numbers are likely to explode on to extreme over the next few mths now surely , vaxed or not, or are they?

UK's back to 50k a day after doing the same thing.

rx

Hey RX

Chairman Dan is following the NSW government and their success. Yes its a backflip... yet at least its in the right direction....Vaccinations work.... I am happy I am double vaccinated with AZ....once I can figure out how to get the proof a vaccine on my cellphone...grr

I hear you loud and clear RX

Hi Paul,

I haven't got around to doing that, but, I think we'll need the Medicare app, & probably have to have MyGov & having linked your Medicare account to that.

?? I haven't got to it ,yet, but will try soon. Things are happening for me this week & next so time may be limited, but I will try to come back with better info. I'm sure I saw something on the MyGovaccount page.

My certificate certainly is in the Medicare account.,

mmMekitty 💤

Hi Paul .

Yeah l haven't figured that out either yet but the nurse did say yeah just go to your my gov acc - l haven't bothered with yet. lf it's on there though and there's no other way l'm thinking l'll just take a picture of it and keep that on my phone.

ps , l agree it is def' in the right direction just a pretty big leap so early out, nsw numbers were way down. Vaxes seem to help for sure but some countries are taking off again as l say , UK , some others in Europe , US is still on 190k a day too last l saw, they do have a lot of antivaxers to though.

l'd just feel better if our numbers were far lower, but at the same time it is time we got on with things too soooo, l dunno tough call.

More people vaxed means less will become very ill & need hospitalisation. It's all about reducing strain on hospitals.

To download your certificate go to your Services Vic app. It asks you I think when you select 'CHECK IN' or there may be an icon down the bottom. You then login to my gov go to Medicare and select your certificate. When you check in after that it will show your fully vaxed or you can select the icon down the bottom to view it.

Cmf x

Hi Everyone,

Just a note on finding a way to have your vaccination details on your phone, it seems every state does this slightly differently.

It has been my experience that not all medical centres and places offering the vaccine automatically download this onto a Government system people can gain access to. In some cases you have to request it (Here in S.A. at least)

The industry I work in here in S.A. actually requires a copy of vaccines! Either a paper copy or it needs to sent to an email address.

I'm not sure if that is going to become a requirement Australia wide for some work places. Quite a few people I encounter coming into my work place do not know how to email their vaccination details off their phone, so maybe check this out as well.

Blondguy

After trying many many times to get the proof of vax with MyGov I gave up. I asked my GP for a print out and took a photo of that. Now it's on my phone to show anyone. I had to show it at the hairdressers on Sat. Easy peasy.

Hi everyone,

I'm inQld, but I was refered to My Gov, & have to have Medicare linked (I do), then I find I have to have apps, the Express Plus Medicare app, (which uses your My Gov login details & then requires you to invent a PIN), & I have the option of sending the Vaccine Certificate to (iPhone) Wallet, or to (somewhere) on my phone, but I can't find where it went! So I still an see it when I open the Express Plus appMedicare U& I bleeping hope tha's good enough.

They really don't make it easy.

I thought we were supposed to get the V.Certificate sent to our state Check In app, but it must be the latest update, but still I can't see how to do it. (Where's the 'settings' button gone?) To update it I had to go to the App Store.... ggrr gggrrr (there's no grumpy cat emoji)

I think, if we persist, we will find a way acceptable for most people who require us to show the V Certificate.

But, (wait for it), just as we think we are all set, I wonder if we'll have to get new & improved versions which would address the ease at which the current V.Certificates can be forged....

I'd laugh if it didn't give me such a headache.

mmMekitty

Hi mmMekitty

I have the NSW vaccination passport on the Medicare express app but no matter what I do it doesn't link to the covid19 sign in on Mygov.

I've heard Medicare keeps crashing so I've given up for the time being! I just have to switch from one screen to another on my phone every time I need to show the vaccination passport!

Good luck!

Good luck indeed, Hannah3.

I hope I will not have to actually use it. I am going somewhere next Monday where I might, so I thought to give it a go. Could it be as bad as the national COVID Safe app? (which I gave up on because I was never sure it was actually working at any time.)

My only real problem with Qld's Check In app is that my phone does not guide me when I am trying to point my camera at the QR Code. When I am with someone, they check in for me on their own app. (grumble).

Cross my paws in the hope I'll get by...

mmMekitty

aaargh! I just took another look into my Express Plus Medicare app & found a place asking if I want to share my vaccination certificate with my Check In app, so I tapped that, & I am only offered Service NSW & Service Vic apps. No other states or territories listed.

But my updated Qld Check In app shows Settings, but I'm not sure if any are set 'on' or 'off'....not that the options would have been any use as far as getting the Vaccination Certificate to show in this app, anyway.

I think this is what we get when we have people trying to catch-up in an ad hoc manner something they might have thought to begin developing at least a year ago.

I have downloaded my vaccination certificate. First I had to download the MyGovID app to prove my identity (I needed 3 forms of identity), then the Medicare app so I could upload the certificate and then I was able to link it to my Apple ID and my Service Victoria app. It is really easy to use in the Service Victoria app as it comes up immediately after I check in to each location.

Holy Toledo , couldn't they have made it a bit simpler . What they think we've got nothing better to do that go through all that bs with yet more apps and garbage.

rx

Ha Ha! Thats for sure, there's a lot of steps to go through...!!! It took me a while I must admit!

Hi Everyone!

Thankyou mmkitty...RX....CMF...meforcats....Added....Hanna3 and Dools for your help ✔✔✔

I used to be really good at IT.....anyhow..I will get it to work later when I have the patience lol

I have downloaded MyGovID....Service Victoria and Medicare app....

So many nice people on the forums :-)

Hugs

Paul

See what Added did a couple posts back?

Now I looked again, into my Express Plus Medicare App & discovered I can skip past loggin myself in, because it looks as if it seems to recognise me, (but Log IN is available), then, skip past 'Sign In As Someone Else'. Then, there is a button 'Offline Items' & when I tap that it opens to a page announcing 'COVID-19 Digital Certificates' & mine is mentioneded there. To see the Certificate proper, tap that.

I think the problem is that they think they don't have anything better to do beside mess us around.😼

What's more, thee is a seperate certificate to obtain if you want to travel overseas...🙀

mmMekitty

Hi mmMekitty and Paul and others

That's what I do - have it on the Medicare app offline.. Medicare keeps saying it's attached it to my NSW covid login but it's not there and I've updated everything and tried over and over but it won't work..

I did Google the problem and apparently the Medicare Express app keeps crashing from the number of people trying to download the certificate.. Otherwise I don't know why it isn't connected!

I pity elderly folk who aren't up to date with technology!

I'm sure it could be done more simply somehow!

Good luck Paul and let me know how you go! 🙂

Good luck with it Paul.

Hugs to you.

Anita.

Hey blondguy Paul, I hope you're well?

Re: accessing your Vax Cert... I had my kids download the Medicare App.
Then I followed the links on there that mentioned anything to do with Covid lol.

Then my Cert appeared - yay.

I took a screenshot of it, so it ended up in my "Gallery" of photos. (I can use this over and over without going through the mire again lol).

I was then able to attach this photo to a text message and send this text to my boss.

If I wanted a hard copy then I would attach this photo to an email on my phone and email it to myself.
Then print it out from my email.

Hope this helps!

EMxxxx

Shelll said:

People I care about may be fired from their job, if they choose not to be vaccinated. People that need to provide for their families, their little ones. How is that for freedom of choice? Sounds like blackmail, bribery or coercion to me.

Employers offering discounts, free vouchers etc to employees if they chose to get the jab. Sounds like bribery to me.

I agree Shelll.

Love EMxxxx

Yeah that's what l originally said too. l'll just find the damn thing and take a picture of it. Keep that on my phone, doubt anyone's gonna bother needing to look past that just to go into places.

One day , when all the hoo haa settles haha.

rx

Hi all,

Ppl are being a bit intense about the vaccination certificates here, it's all been very quick and a lot of my friends are struggling with the tech side of it,

Instead of suggesting options eg maybe email it to me til it gets sorted, or offering to help vulnerable ppl get a print copy, ppl are getting screamed at etc... gosh.

Madness.

Today I went to a business and forgot my vac certificate as I didn't have my phone on me so I wasn't let in. OK fine, but the screaming and lecturing was too much for me. She assumed I was anti Vax or deliberately sneaky. I he'd my ground and said, we are all getting used to new technology, so let's be kind. No excuse ever to scream at or embarrass anyone, in these times. Made me sad and felt vulnerable, as being screamed at is a trigger for me.