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Topic: Coping during the Coronavirus outbreak

  1. Doolhof
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    19 December 2021 in reply to blondguy

    Hi Paul,

    Hope your Mum is doing okay and she will be able to receive all the help and care she needs in the future.

    I was talking to a lovely lady the other day in her 90's and she was talking about the "Bad Air Disease" (being Covid.) I guess in her life she would have experienced many things.

    Hope your Mum has a lovely Christmas, you too and same to all reading.

    Covid may make us adjust our plans a little. Hope we all manage okay. Cheers.

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  2. Hanna3
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    19 December 2021 in reply to Hanna3
    I'm wearing a mask indoors. It's to help protect myself and others by restricting the spread of the virus. Delta is still spreading along with omicron. Wearing a mask and using sanitiser is the least we can do.
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    19 December 2021 in reply to Hanna3

    Hello Everyone...l.🤗,

    Hanna, I still will be wearing a mask when I go shopping...My town is so small, that if one person contacts COVID..it could easily spread through the whole town....and the guilt I would feel if I spread it around to the other residents would be crippling...

    Paul...I hope your beautiful mother has a wonderful Christmas and wish her all the best health that I can....

    My eldest son and dil refuse to get vaccinated, they have 5 children and a grandson...3 young children still living at home....unvaccinated as well....ES owns his own business and each week has at least 50 plus people going through his doors...50+ chances of contracting COVID and bringing it home to his children and grandchild....my grandchildren , my great grandchild....and I am powerless to change their mind on getting their family vaccinated....

    I can’t see them, for this reason....and it’s breaking my heart that COVID could be brought home to them any day...My ES doesn’t believe it’s as bad as the media is making it out to be, even though his sil lost her father to COVID....they still are adamant that they won’t get vaccinated...I pray each day that they and their children stay safe and healthy....

    Its a constant concern....My hands are tied because I cannot “force them to be vaccinated “...They are adults and have their own ideas on what’s happening...but the children are so young and because of that, they have no say in being vaccinated or not....It’s just so unfair...I have heart problems and cannot catch COVID because it would be to hard for me to survive it, my Dr. has said...

    I wish the vaccine would be mandatory if you have small children living with you...or elderly people. because their voices have been muffled, taken away, by family members who think they know better then the professionals and scientists....

    How very sad is that is....I really do feel for you Paul...and others who cannot see their loved ones because they refuse to be vaccinated...

    Kind thoughts to everyone....

    Grandy...

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  4. Guest_1055
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    19 December 2021

    Why are people so scared about catching "it", if they are vaccinated and say they are protected. If they are protected from it, how can they possibly catch it.

    This just has never made sense to me.

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  5. Hanna3
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    19 December 2021 in reply to Guest_1055

    Hi shell,

    The vaccination does not stop you contracting the virus, you still catch it but you don't get as sick as an unvaccinated person because the vaccine gives you antibodies to fight it. The vaccine needs a booster to help you fight against the Omicron strain.

    I hope this makes things clearer. Even fully vaccinated people can still get extremely sick, but the vaccination does help most people fight off being in hospital and in intensive care.

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  6. Hanna3
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    19 December 2021 in reply to Hanna3

    I think the best way to understand the vaccine is that it helps prevent SEVERE illness from the virus. You can still catch the virus and pass it on to others but in general you are much less sick than unvaccinated people. However some unlucky people get very sick even fully vaccinated.

    It generally protects you from illness that is bad enough that you require hospitalisation and intensive care.

    So it gives you significant protection and helps reduce the load on our health care system.

    I'm fully vaccinated but still aware if I catch the virus I can get sick. However I should be much less sick than someone who hasn't been vaccinated.

    Hope this helps!

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    19 December 2021 in reply to Hanna3

    Thanks Hanna.

    For people who have some other illnesses, especially if they have immune systems are not working properly still can become very ill if they catch COVID-19, whatever strain it is. Delta hasn't gone away, but Omicron may take over, becoming the most prevalent strain, until, perhaps another strai emerges.

    People are going to be working on making vaccines which better protect us, or which can be more easily modified when new strains come along. I'm thinking, we'll eventually end up with an annual COVID vacs, alongside our annual Flu vacs.

    It does take a little while for our immune systems to 'learn' & deal with new viruses. Our immune systems are not A+ students, so the lesson has to be reinforced. We do that with the booster, so our immune systems will learn better how to recognise & respond to the invading virus.

    I hope I have helped too.

    mmMekitty

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    19 December 2021 in reply to Guest_1055

    Hi Shelly and everyone...

    Shelly I’m not scared of catching it...it’s if I did and I passed it on to someone else and they got very sick or worse....I could never forgive myself if I done that....

    Kind thoughts everyone..

    Grandy..

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    19 December 2021 in reply to Guest_1055

    Interesting discussion...

    I'm so frustrated in vic how many times they keep changing the rules and restrictions

    How much is a human expected to adapt and be at ease with rules that keep changing ?

    I honestly don't know if I'm allowed to go maskless in a Cafe....the confusion and changes scare me and upset my sense of calm.

    Big breaths are needed just to cope.

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    19 December 2021 in reply to Guest_1055

    Hi Shell,

    I think people are scared of the unknown, as everything seems to be unpredictable with the virus and there are so many changes happening, it can be difficult for some people to adapt and process these changes. Even if a person is vaccinated, they are still able to catch the virus, although the severity of the infection would be less. I understand your frustration around this, I think everyone is also frustrated how this virus caused so much fear and changed our lives. Hopefully the new year brings better things and more opportunities.

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    19 December 2021 in reply to Mk2692

    Hi,

    It is scary now just to turn on the news sometimes, I feel for ppl struggling with anxiety through this time.

    I really benefit from talking to trusted ppl about the virus, I feel like because I live alone, and can't process news easily, I'm always in the dark about what is happening.

    I Get some support from a case manager and a support group, and that keeps me going,

    At times I have found this thread a bit judgemental and it has been hard. I am trying to find positive ways to get info and support because these times do hurt.

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    19 December 2021 in reply to Guest_1643

    Hi Sleepy,

    I know it's hard to keep up, & trying to find out can get really frustrating ®ular checking to find out what's new & what has changed with regards to restrictions can realy mess with your mood.

    I've have found this:

    when to wear a face mask | Coronavirus Victoria

    But I don't suppose it's a live link, so google what I've given here. It was top of my google search, which said the info was from 3 days ago. I'm sure Vic.gov would update their website regularly.

    I hope this is helpful.

    mmMekitty

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    19 December 2021 in reply to mmMekitty
    Hi mekitty, very sweet of u to post that. Thank you 😊
  14. Leica27
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    19 December 2021

    Here in Newcastle (possibly the most germy town in the world at the moment) things are quiet even with the restrictions ended. People are staying home, or only getting together outside, and wearing masks indoors. I think it's safe to say people want to get through Christmas.

    A lot of businesses are closed partly because of this but also because so many staff have covid or are close contacts. The big superspreader events were places full of young people who are the majority of the hospitality and many retail businesses.

    I've heard a lot of people say, "well if you're vulnerable or scared just stay home". The frustrating thing is firstly vulnerable people can't just stay home all the time and really they shouldn't have to if the community works together to protect them. They need to work, shop, go to appointments. And should be able to see their loved ones and have some sort of social and community life. And of course being scared is okay. We all perceive things in our own way shouldn't be ashamed for that feeling. How we deal with that feeling is another question but it's sad to see people ridiculed for being worried.

    I've just had my booster last week but I'm keeping away from risky places for exposure as much as possible and wearing a mask indoors. I've managed to have a nice weekend (despite the heat) going swimming and the park. Sometimes this natural lockdown suits me, less pressure to go out into crowds. And I'm very lucky that my friends, family and managers respect and more or less share my thoughts on how to get through this time. It doesn't mean it's easy but I've given up trying to make sense of it.

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    19 December 2021 in reply to blondguy
    Paul POA can be revoked by your mum if she is still in her right mind. She just writes a new one and has it witnessed properly. We went to the police to do ours. It is totally her choice.
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  16. Guest_1055
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    19 December 2021
    Thankyou you all for giving your time in explaining things to me. Appreciate it
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    20 December 2021
    Interesting words from my 9y.o son today when I told him he has to wear a mask to go to his appointment.He said why do I have to wear a mask can't we just have a lockdown.It made me think how are the children perceiving what is going on in the world today and how is it going to effect them through their life?.
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  18. randomx
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    20 December 2021 in reply to Matchy69

    The adult kids don't even know, my 20yrold d has so much anxiety fear and stress from all this it's just sad, and very scary.

    rx

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  19. Hanna3
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    20 December 2021 in reply to Matchy69
    Your son obviously doesn't like wearing a mask Matchy! I can understand his reasoning that a lockdown is preferable! Poor kid! That's sweet. 🤗💞
  20. DaisyChane25
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    20 December 2021 in reply to Leica27

    I’m in Newcastle, day 1 after positive test, complete meltdown this afternoon. Waiting for results of the rest of the household. Triple vaxxed but still worried. Wasn’t out partying, wore masks, vaccinated, still got it. I just feel so angry & just worried. Need to get a grip.

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    20 December 2021 in reply to DaisyChane25

    Hello DaisyChane,

    Welcome to the forum. I'm sad you have been infected, & have to be in quarantine, stressing out about the rest of your family. You've been so very unfortunate, & I think I'd be angry too.

    Can you tell us about more about how you are feeling? What are you doing to cope with all the worry & anger? You used the term 'melt down' which sounds pretty bad, but probably not helpful. What other ways could you express your feelings?

    We'll be here listening, when you want to talk more.

    In the meantime, here are some❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️to go on with.

    mmMekitty

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    21 December 2021 in reply to Leica27

    Hi all,

    Thanks for the clarity re masks, and to ppl sharing their empathy and understanding.

    I and many ppl need safe spaces to vent and be heard and not judged or talked down to. It's hard.

    I wander if ppl around me can conceptualise the mh toll of covid on some of us. I am so agoraphobic and affected by changing rules and lockdowns. And now this time of year is triggering me further. I know ppl will always say just stay home, as if I don't.

    I've barely left my house for more than 30 minutes for 2 years.

    It's taken such a toll and I'm so lonely and isolated.

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    21 December 2021

    I'm thinking it's okay to not wear masks in cafe.... thanks mekitty.

    I have it with me and end up wearing it even on street outdoors because I can't keep up and just feel less stressed with it.

    I wear it to medical appointments and then it's pretty strict, but otherwise I,moot sure how severe the rules are currently .

    I don't like my appearance, so for me, added bonus?

    It will be hard to adjust to normal life. I'm barely surviving now. I can't remember most of the last two years, I think my mind has blocked it out. I wander for the trauma and fears that have been triggered during these times. I wander how loneliness feels worse, during thismtime.

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    21 December 2021 in reply to Guest_1643

    I think it is very difficult for people who are not living with mental health difficulties, to comprehend it's not as simple for telling us, "it's easy, a simple thing to put o a mas; it's the least [we] can do." Or, how unhealthy to say "just stay home".

    I've been staying home a lot, too, because of not being able o to put on & keep on a mask. This in itself has caused my anxiety levels to rise & some symptoms of social phobia to return. Many people don't guess, it might be 'triggering' & damaging, to either stay home or put on a mask. I doubt anyone has a very good idea of how many people have seen their own mental health deteriorate , some for the first time.

    We know services are stretched, people are waiting long times to see someone, anyone, begging, I hear in some posts here.

    ...must go snooze.

    mmMekitty

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    21 December 2021

    Thanks mekitty....hope u get good rest and recovery. Ur points were very empathetic...

    I'm sorry that the mask rules mean u stay home. I can relate, I feel pretty agoraphobic and find it hard to leave the house.

    i know masks are hard for lots of ppl. Staying home brings so much pain and stress for

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  26. Freakedout
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    Just joined.

    Two years on Im more scared then ever before. There is so much out there to consider. Never seems to be definitive news that helps alleviate the fear and anxiety. How are others coping? I know that sleeping properly or relaxing has become really hard. We are trying to do all the safe things but we are only in control of our own actions and we cant stop others from doing what they do.

    Just wondering if anyone feels the same?

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    22 December 2021 in reply to Freakedout

    Hi Freaked out and welcome to the forums .You are not alone in your feelings and many of us feel the same with the virus.I am feeling more scared and depressed then I did at the start.Even with a vaccine it's only partly protecting us and we can still get it and still spread it and get sick from it.The vaccine might help with us not getting so sick with it.I am feeling very much like a prisoner very scared to go out especially with the spreading of the new strain.

    I hope you can find some comfort in this thread to know you are not alone.

    Take care,

    Mark.

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    22 December 2021 in reply to Matchy69

    Hello Freaked out, & welcome,

    You certainly are not alone

    From the start, I have tried to keep up with the info knowledgeable people have given us, & first I thought, as the pollies were learning & adapting to the new info coming in, I thought what was being asked was mostly reasonable. Now, however, their responses to Omicron seems to make little sense to me. So, I am going to continue to follow the directives which were recommended for the COVID-19 we have been dealing with, fairly well, compared to many countries.

    Since it is still a respiratory illness, passed to others via the fine droplets of moisture in our breath, wearing masks, (wish I could), staying at least 1.5 metres from each other as possible, socialising outdoors as well, when the weather is nice, getting the vaccines - all 3 doses at this stage, when you can, are the best things we can do to help bring the numbers of people infected down.

    There are still some people getting seriously ill. Most are not fully vaccinated, many will also have other conditions making them more susceptible to serious illness than others.

    I'm a high risk person, so, 'Careful' has become my middle name.

    & yippie,, I got my third/booster dose today. 😺

    & yet, I'll check for updates to the list of places where infected people have been, more often again, for the next 2 weeks, even while only going out as strictly necessary, & again when I leave hospital. even though then I will still be staying home, recovering. I'll be thinking of people I know, who visit my plave, & where else they may have been, & when...I know I'm going a little overboard & need to rein my anxiety in some.

    I'm looking after my basic needs. & trying to 'do Xmas' in my own way. I found some very quiet, & slow guitar solo Xmas music today. It's like a very long lullaby. It's ben soothing me today. It won't be enough by itself. but it sure feel like it is reaching deep into my body where most of my tension is. 😸 I would like to go to sleep to it tonight, too.

    & there is another with piano, jazz style, but otherwise very similar. I forgot to make a 'Favourite' of it before going to my GP's. I think I can find it again.

    They are both on YouTube, & after the first ad, so far thare have been no other ads, which helps immensely. If here were many ads interrupting the music, that would defeat the purpose of listening entirely.

    I hope you find our support helpful to you ,Freakedout.

    mmMekitty

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    23 December 2021 in reply to mmMekitty

    Thank you for your response.

    Yes its hard enough dealing with the daily situation. Its harder not feeling the powers that be are helping us anymore. What makes it even harder is Im trying whatever I can to be safe but its also causing drama at home with my partner angry with me for being too anxious and "over reacting" to the situation.

    Hard to know where to from here.

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    23 December 2021 in reply to Freakedout

    Hi Freakedout,

    Do you understand your partner's Point of view? Are you two talking - not arguing - about what you'll do as a couple, given your differences of opinion about how much to adhere to those things, like mask wearing, going into crowded environments, wat places you really need to visit & what places you don't?

    In the event of disagreement, what are you willing to do? Do you compromise your own sense of protecting yourself to keep your partner happy? What is your partner willing to do to help you feel more at ease?

    mmMekitty

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