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Topic: How to take practical advantage of isolation

  1. Shelll
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    13 April 2020 in reply to monkey_magic

    Hi MM,

    That sounds real special doing a video chat with your family. Nice. I video chatted with my mum yesterday and my dad chimed in a little. It was through messenger.

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    Hello all

    It is great to see everyone writing haiku's, I had to laugh Shelll at you asking if the dog one was about poo, I think you are somewhat on the money though with it being about a dog leaving its mark and checking for other dogs who have left a scent..well that is my professional interpretation...lol

    I love the idea of reading a book aloud Croix, recording it and having it for another time, I can also see a little bit of a plan here too in that my daughter, while totally fascinated with her phone and recording herself is not interested one bit in reading..I think I have just found a way for her to actually read something while indulging in her self a bit...awesome idea I love it!

    Thank you for the message Speak your Truth, a think the princess story is a lot of fun at a time when we probably don't tap into our creative and fun side enough, I am taking this time to really indulge in some things I just dont have time for in my "normal life"..like painting, like dancing to 80's music, watching old VHS tapes..yes that is right....soo great to see how far we have come....the next question I ask is "why can't I do these things in my normal life?" the answer is I can, and I am using this time as a gentle reminder not to take each day for granted. I spoke to my friend today, she is painting a mural on her lounge room wall, another one is making a 6 layer birthday cake for her daughter's 18th....stuff we would never do in real life...I am loving hearing what people are discovering about themselves...

    eight..your knowledge about the online world blows my mind and I actually find myself having to look some things up as I am so old and in a totally different generation to you when I guess the only form of gaming was like Mortal Combat and Mario Brothers...oh and Galaga at the fish n chip shop....

    Ok now for the next installment of the princess.....

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    Dear All and Shell~
    Y0u were asking abut two poems, the first being the one supposedly by a dog. I think you can take that on two levels, the first being simply what is important in a dog’s mind, and not having a complete picture (forgot to smell something) is a worry, maybe it was smelling where other dogs had gone to the toilet to know what dogs were around.

    At another level it can apply to humans who can wonder what would have happened if they had taken a different path, married someone else, taken up a different job or so on. Maybe their life is not ideal and the untrodden path might have been better - who can tell?

    The other poem was about traveling alone, and I was reminded of it by Eight, who has some pretty deep thoughts but in the last paragraph mentioned others did not want to talk about these things – thus travels alone.

    Best I could think of at the time. There is another interpretation but I’ve decided not to mention it as it might be considered gloomy on this particular thread.

    Now I think your own poem is excellent, and conveys so much, while fitting in well with your picture, which could be the start of a meal preparation. The idea of munching on that stem, its texture and taste, is so real.

    Croix

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    Dear All and Aaronsis~
    I think the point you are emphasizing, that we are doing things now, mainly because we are in isolation, are things we would very much benefit from in ordinary life. In a world with maybe work and family there is little time for ‘leisure’ activities and some richness can be lost. Yet these help us have a balance, and are enjoyable too. So you are wise to think of resuming them when life returns to normal.

    Once long ago I started a mural, like your friend. I had an old Chinese cigarette card with a picture of a phoenix. I divided it into squares, and painted each portion in a corresponding but larger section on a wall. Sadly, we moved before it was finished, so maybe that, in a minor way, was a third bush from the left not competed. I do regret not ever seeing the completed work, it would have been powerful.

    Amazingly the same card is actually shown in the New York Digital Collection of cigarette cards which is immense:

    https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47da-989a-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

    Croix

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    Dear All~
    Earlier on PamelaR had been talking about the photographs she and her partner had taken and was thinking in terms of an exhibition, possibly about isolation.

    That got me thinking too, in today’s world we are flooded with images and most will never be viewed more than a couple of times. Sometimes however a description of the origin, date and subject can be really significant in later years.

    As an example, my family has pictures going back to pretty much the middle of the 19th century and there is one where someone has written Great Aunt Wakefield underneath . We have no idea who this very stern and formal lady is, sitting rigidly in a floor-length gown holding a bible , as was the custom at the time.

    Her full life (she looked well-to-do ) and undoubtedly an ancestor, has disappeared in the mists of time.

    So perhaps a worthwhile occupation future generations might appreciate is the labeling of selected images, something easy to do with computer software. It is an occupation that can involve a fair degree of talk within the family, particularly of those who are older, and is probably worthwhile for that alone.

    I’m not sure it’s my turn for another princess episode yet – (yes, that’s a hint🙄)

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    .............................................................................................................

    ...with the little dog jumping up and barking, but this bark was not like any usual bark, it sounded like a bird, an eagle, he was barking "krew, krew"....the elephant was confused, the singing dude was confused and just like that the walrus came to a complete stop....the princess was able to catch her breath and remove the mounds of soaked hair from across her face.....the walrus had a huge smile on his face, he was delighted at this little dog and that he knew, he was the only one that knew...HOW TO SAY HIS NAME.....in the meantime not only was the princess saved from being totally drenched in the ocean but had her wish granted from the frypan mirror..she stood up in the shallows of the water and said to the walrus....

    ...............................................................................................................................................

  7. Shelll
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    13 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    Hello Croix

    Oh wow in regards to the dog poem. The thought of it possibly being about humans thinking they should have taken another path or wondering what life would be like if they had chosen another way is beyond me. Thanks for answering me.

    As for my poem...And if its okay to say so😊... maybe it wasn't so good as I was talking about grapes. And I was eating them at the time I was writing it. Oh well I tried. It was fun having a go.

    And I like looking at old photographs. I like seeing the history, like what they wore and people's hairstyles. Toys in the background if its a portrait of a child. Is fascinating. Your one of the ancestor who was a refined lady Croix makes me think they were not aloud to smile in photos back them.

    Aaronsis I am so glad it gave you a smile what I said. 😊

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    I had a look Croix at the Ancient Chinese Phoenix, Fung Huwang......I am so very impressed that you started to recreate this as a mural on the wall, it would have been no easy feat....I would love to be so accomplished in my painting to have the courage to even do a large canvas let alone to put something like that onto the wall and be responsible for how it turns out, that is so awesome you started it and I wonder if anyone ever did pick up a brush and rise the Phoenix from the ashes.

    You reminded me so very vividly of my grandmother when you mentioned writing on photos and making note of who, what and the date, my grandmother will be 90 this year and I hope we get to have a celebration for her with all this iso stuff, however, whenever you show her a picture or photo the first thing she does is turn it over and expect to see a paragraph of..Aaronsis and her son xxx, dated 13 April, 2020 (the year of Covid-19), in the park located at the rear of her property in xxx...it makes me laugh as my father's wife never does this and when she shows my grandmother pics I can see her almost go into a state of convulsion.....lol...oh it makes me laugh.

    However, it is very useful for generations to come to see and understand their ancestors.

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    13 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    hello everyone, so much going on my poor brain is confused.

    I scrolled back but cant see the princess episode mentioned anywhere so can you explain Croix what it means .

    My haiku

    Forgetting how to knit

    knit knit knit knit knit

    purl purl drop purl purl knit drop

    knit drop knit drop stop

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    13 April 2020

    Dear Quirky~

    Rather than the title "Forgetting how to knit" it I'd call it "Falling asleep after a long day", so much gentler.

    Actually the poem itself is a lovely illustration and gets it's point across beautifully.

    =================

    Now, as to the princess, Aaronsis mention she had been playing a game with her kids in which each contributed in turn to a made-up story.

    I foolishly then started a story about a princess who needed a haircut (I was thinking of Rapunzel) in the following post:

    https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/permalink/qv7P4HHzvGGEbv8AAOnT_A

    In the next post Shelll took up the story, and from then on the princess saga has had contributions made by many posters buried in their posts as time has gone on. The story seems to have taken on a life of it's own:) -which is good!

    We now have a princess with long hair, an annoying singer, a little dog (named after Inspector Rex), a walrus who ate a chocolate wagon wheel, an elephant who works in a circus and an old man who is asleep after imbibing too deeply.

    As you can see the story has become complicated, the latest episode immediately follows this post of mine:

    https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/staying-well/how-to-take-practical-advantage-of-isolation/page/4#qwDn6nHzvGGEbv8AAOnT_A

    If you can untangle it all you will be doing well - if you do you might like to contribute

    Croix

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    14 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    Croix,

    Thanks for the links and explanation of princess episodes. The links returned me to this thread but didn't see any princess episodes. Never mind.

    Do you think putting a never ending story thread like the princess as a separate princes would help the tangled web. Thanks for your help.

    there was thread not sure of its title where you wrote part of a story and the next poster took up the story. Think Ggrand may have started one like that.

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    Hi all

    I do love this thread Croix. It brings joy to my heart and a smile to my face. From writing a haiku, to a long entangled story about a princess, to reading aloud, to find one's writing painting abilities - it's wonderful. Thank you everyone for sharing and being part of this incredibly positive thread.

    Something that stuck with me about what Croix said was - the idea of the thread was to also put in place something people will maintain post COVID-19. The thing I'm doing is a photo a day and ensuring I edit it. There is also volumes of photographs taken previously that have never been edited or disposed of. I'm having a good time doing some tossing.

    Thank you for the inspiration Croix to do something with my pics, other than for my own edification.

    Ummm, I haven't re-read everything that the Princess, the Pup, the singing dude, the walrus and the elephant have been up to. I launch in here with the previous one by Aaronsis -

    .....not only was the princess saved from being totally drenched in the ocean but had her wish granted from the frypan mirror..she stood up in the shallows of the water and said to the walrus....

    this water is really cold, my hair is wet and hopefully is now well cleaned. But you know what Mr Walrus, I'm really hungry and so is my little puppy mate here. Do you have any more wagon wheels in your back flippers? Could do with some energy.

    Mr Walrus flipped his whiskers this way and that, lifted his flippers and looked and looked....... What did he find......

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    Hello everyone...

    Mr. Walrus found a packet of peanuts, princess, puppy, elephant, Mr Walrus, singing dude..all sat around on the big rock and divided them up equally...after all it is elephants favourite food...While they were drying of and eating, princess dropped a peanut down a little hole..Just before they decided to move on..the peanut in the water hole sprouted and then all of a sudden grew up to the sky..hmm should they climb it...they wanted to but no one wanted to go first...so they drew straws, and it was......

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  14. Shelll
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    .... Elephant that managed to draw the short straw. No body said anything, but they all wondered how he would climb up. I mean he was on the heavy side and quite clumsy with those feet of his.

    But elephant always believed in himself and was keen to make his way upwards. So with his trunk he reached up and tested the stems of the giant peanut plant. He gave it a tug with this trunk of his. It felt like he had a good grip on it. Using his trunk, which happened to be now hanging on to a think sturdy branch he gave a little jump and managed to get his whole entire body up unto the branch. Everyone below was looking up and clapping. And then.....

  15. Croix
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    Dear All and Quirky~

    You asked a good question, why not put the princess' story in a separate thread, however I'm not sure it would be as good.

    • This is my answer which I hope even complete strangers read

    There are an increasing number of articles, blogs, programs and so on that deal with the mental health of those in isolation. I though there should be a thread that stepped away from all that and thought in terms of how to turn necessity to advantage and see what could be done that made something that lasted, something in which to take pride and have in later life when all returns to more or less normal.

    It would be very easy for such a the thread to turn into just a list, and I think people would get sick of reading line after line of ideas, so I included the game to keep people coming back or joining in for the first time -and hopefully contributing not only to the princess' story, but good ideas as well.

    I did think of having a summary of the story so far, but when it reached far beyond the legal character limit thought better of it :(

    So I guess to know all that's happened you have to read through a lot of the thread, mind you that way you get to see all the helpful ideas. Also I don't think adding an episode needs knowledge of all that went before

    I hope that helps

    Croix

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  16. Shelll
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    Another thing you could do is join your local library or any library. At the moment the local libraries around me are temporarily closed.

    However once you are joined up and you can do it online. You can then borrow ebooks, audio books, and e magazines. Borrow them all for free. There is lots of ebooks at the moment. I think libraries are adding more to the list now, because of the isolation restrictions.

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    Dear All and PamelaR~

    I'm glad this thread has given you encouragement, it sounds as if you are gong to end up with a fantastic collection featuring a lot of plants, animals and forest or landscapes I understand from other posts of yours elswhere.

    Preserving the world is not limited to photos, or even art.

    One pastime that I should have done 20+ years ago was pressing flowers. Mrs Croix and I have been married over 20 and we still have her bouquet hanging in a corner, all dried out, dusty and brown, though with ribbon around it.

    How much better it would have been to have picture frame with a selection artistically placed within. It is not a hard pastime, selecting the flowers, ensuring they are trimmed and dry, pressing them in absorbent paper between weights (such as books) then sticking the result on a backing for a frame or in a special book is not hard, just takes patience.

    The result can last and last (ask Joseph Banks).

    There is a very good and simple how-to here:

    https://www.wikihow.com/Press-Flowers

     

    Croix

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    14 April 2020 in reply to Shelll
    download the libby app if you have a valid library card. you can borrow lotsa ebooks using it ive been trying to read no friend but the mountains for uh... two months now but we be reading babey
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    Dear All and Grandy~

    It's good to see you here, and you've managed to extract the troupe from a complicated situation - is the idea of a stalk growing right up in the sky and needing to be climbed original? :)

    Never mind, my response is not going to be completely original either:)

    Croix (who wonders where the straws came from)


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    14 April 2020 in reply to eight

    Hi eight. I have not met you before I don't think. Anyway Hello.

    I also have that Libby app. There are a couple of more apps that my local libraries use as well.

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    Dear All and Shelll (I forgot the final 'l' last time -sorry)~
    You are quite right about libraries, my own has a very extensive collection of eBooks and also audioBooks you can borrow, though I'm finding the queues for the more popular ones are getting longer (each person can have an electronic copy of 2 weeks). I used to find eBooks excellent when driving (don't do much of that at the moment:(

    I still have one secondhand printed book coming from the UK, but it's taking ages -far longer than normal, so eBooks are the way to go.

    Now for the elephant
    -----------------
    He climbed and climbed to the top where he saw two green doors, each guarded by a mouse. He remembered something his grandmother had told him and know that one was an honest mouse and always spoke the truth while the other a bad mouse who always told lies.

    He saw a sign saying one door would drop him straight down to the ground and the other would lead to a sumptuous feast. Unfortunately it did not say which was which.

    So he asked the nearest mouse "...

    Croix
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    14 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    Hey Croix - did I write a haiku without even trying ?

    Unfortunately my dog
    is my only company
    and his writing is terrible

    Got to laugh about that 😂🤣

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    now he knew his grandma was also an avid fan of Labyrinth (1986, dir. Jim Henson) and theres that scene where sarah gets told one leads to the castle one leads to certain death. i wasn't following the story and thought this was about the singing dude and when i realised it was about the elephant i started thinking abt elephant david bowie

    he asks any of the mice "if i asked the other mouse where the feast was where would they point" and picks the opposite door.

    let there be two guards - liar and truthteller. and two doors, feast (F) and ground (G). i used they on both but i got into a few pronoun snafuses so the liar is he/him and truthteller is she

    the liar knows the F door. if you asked him to point to F, he'd point to G because he lies

    the truthteller knows the F door as well. if you asked her to point to F she will point to F because she tells the truth.

    the liar knows which door is F and that the truthteller is honest, meaning the truthteller would say F is correct if you asked her. if you asked the liar what the truthteller would say he will answer G which is not what the truthteller would say and a lie.

    the truthteller knows which door is F and that the liar tells lies, meaning the liar would say G is correct if you asked him. if you asked the truthteller what the liar would say she will answer G which is what the liar would say and the truth

    both guards respond with G which is the wrong door. therefore the elephant should take the opposite door, F. whether the guard lies or tells the truth is irrelevant (conversely, if the doors were swapped so would the answers. either way the elephant takes the opposite door)

    man you're really shaping up. giving my ass math logic problems i have to explain. this was meant to be a paragraph long joke about elephant david bowie. a pox on you and your family croix

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    14 April 2020 in reply to Speak Your Truth

    You're a poet
    and don't know it!
    (Or you dog is)

    -C (😒who knows the above is not a haiku)

  25. Shelll
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    14 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    Hi Croix

    You said sorry for missing the l in my name . No need for a sorry I don't think. All cool. I prefer with only 2 letter ll.

    I too am waiting for a printed book to arrive. Not from the UK like you but here in Australia.

    Shell

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    Hello all, what a great group of people, I am really enjoying this thread

    Firstly, Speak your truth, I actually laughed out loud at your Haiku...hilarious..well done at writing that one!

    That is a really beautiful idea to press the flowers from your wife's wedding bouquet Croix, it reminded me of what i have recently done to celebrate my brother. I took a photo, some flowers, the tie he always wore when he went out (which looks like a galaxy) and matched it with some backing sheets of like colours and had it framed. I think it is not too late to make something creative with your wife's dried flowers. There is even this cool thing when you pour like a resin over them and they are contained in a shape, like a candle shape or whatever...I think you get what I am trying to explain here...lol

    I also thought about capturing the princesses journey on a thread of her own, I had the very same thought, half of the beauty of her story is that people are doing two things here and that is contributing to the swag of things to do while in isolation that can be maintained when we "resume normality" as well as dive into some fantasy land too....I think she lives here...lol

    So last night I thought "I need something different to do"...so...are you ready......I did some handstands...yep....the vision you have in your mind of a 45 year old woman doing a handstand is pretty much how it went...however..after a few...I nailed it....well sort of...I haven't done one in I can't say how many years...my arms are sore today....but now I am going to move on to..yep you guessed it....a cartwheel..stay tuned for that one!

    Hugs to you all my friends

    Sarah xx

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    Oh three cheers for you doing a handstand Aaronsis.

    👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉

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    Everyone below was looking up and clapping. And then.....

    they saw in the distance the biggest snail in the world so big that a small princess was riding it. The snail knew she was special so special she did not bother to talk to ordinary snails, or lizards or really any other animal.

    Snail who felt she was too special to have a name, like the elephant but despite being the biggest snail in the world, still had the careful around elephants huge feet.

    the princess was getting restless and want an adventure as sitting on a snail all day was quite tiring and dull.

    There was a very surprising noise that no one …..

    As my first attempt so forgive me if

    I jumped in at the wrong place

    made many typos

    broke any guidelines .

    Cheers

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    15 April 2020 in reply to Aaronsis
    Hi Aaronsis/Sarah 👋. I’m so glad my ‘haiku’ made you laugh. Actually it didn’t start out as a haiku. It was a response to Croix for something he said - I was being silly and dashed it off as a sentence and then I turned it into a haiku. A happy accident 😂
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    Dear All plus Eight~

    Yes as you quite rightly say if the elephant asks either mouse which the other would point to then you know that door will be an unhappy choice (particularly if you are standing underneath the stalk).

    I look forward to the episode with David Bowie

    Croix (who leaned the riddle from a Doctor Who episode)

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