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Topic: Mindfulness: What Is It? (Even if you dont know please post so we can help grow the forums accordingly)

  1. Guest_1643
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    Hello all, was just wandering if anyone uses the Calm app, or any other apps for mindfulness?
    I used to use Smiling Minds but have heard that Calm is good...

    thanks to everyone for sharing their mindfulness strategies, so so helpful

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    14 August 2020 in reply to Guest_1643

    Hey Sleepy21

    I keep hearing how good 'Smiling Minds' is. Please let me know your thoughts on 'Calm ' if you try it :-)

    Sleepy mentioned "thanks to everyone for sharing their mindfulness strategies, so so helpful" Nice1 Sleepy21!

    my kindest always

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    14 August 2020 in reply to blondguy

    Hey Sleepy and

    I use the Headspace app - can recommend it.

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    Hi everyone!!

    Hope everyone is keeping safe from COVID-19.

    So what is mindfulness?

    Personally, mindfulness is something when we immerse ourselves in the task that we are currently doing or engaging in. We simply live in the moment. But we are also still aware of our surroundings.

    Practical example? If I want to grow mangoes, I would completely immerse myself in the process of growing the mangoes. I wouldn't focus on the result, instead, I would focus on how can I improve my process. By this, unreal truly becomes real!!!

    Hope that helps.

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    14 August 2020 in reply to Balance

    Hi Balance,

    I like the trusty old diary as well. Paradoxically, it helps me to remove my thoughts by 'outsourcing' the job of remembering to the paper/book (- ah, the joys of the upper echelons of management!). Strangely, I find the app equivalents seem to pester me for action and this feels counterproductive.

    Crossing off a chore by tick, line, or complete obliteration, is always most satisfying (something akin to popping bubblewrap) and, to avoid too much expectation, I use a 'forward arrow' for when I just say 'too bad, I'll do that tomorrow'. And consider the value of separate sheets - the added joy in scrunching the page or gleefully ripping it to shreds is not to be underestimated.

    So how does this relate to topic? I think being kind to your mind - having an awareness and appreciation for what it must carry every single day, is demonstrating a certain mindfulness of your mind. Show it some attention; let it know that it's doing the best it can, and give it a break every now and then.

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    16 August 2020 in reply to Guest_2496

    Hi annie_1 and a wave to everyone

    I love the Headspace app too... it was especially relaxing to my children in their recovery from trauma trying to sleep at night. I found it on the airplanes I was travelling on lol... a nice way to help travellers cope!

    I tried the Smiling Minds app at the beginning of the covid stuff... it helped in the way I could 'monitor' my before and after mindset.. I think at the time I needed that type of thing to pull me away from the hype of everything going on inside my house and out.

    Nowadays I am LOVING any and all meditations by Dr Joe Dispenza, they're available on YouTube for free... it's a beautiful thing when we find something that works for us as individuals!
    IE a mind discipline practice that we can generalise to other times throughout our day.
    I find I can move into the fields Dr Joe trains us to whenever I direct my mind to do so... when driving (no accidents yet but keeping data!) and when I'm doing any other tasks that I'm doing alone. Or with the dog, like taking him for a walk.

    It's like the more challenging our situations are then the deeper the need for mindfulness.

    The need for inner calm has never been more necessary than now. (Which leads us full circle but hey I'll leave it there lol)..

    Love EM

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    16 August 2020 in reply to ecomama

    Hi EM

    That was enough of a recommendation that I’ll listen to Joe Dispenza later today. Thank you!!

    I also find calmness from Petrea King - she has a Monday night meditation group accessed via her Quest for Life Foundation fb page. (you can listen any time, doesn’t have to be when it’s live)

    :)

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  8. quirkywords
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    16 August 2020 in reply to Guest_2496

    Hello all

    thanks EM and Annie for your recommendations. I will look them up.

    it is nice when people explain how something works for them and shares it,

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    27 September 2020 in reply to Guest_2496

    Hi Everyone...New posters and health professionals are always welcome too as mindfulness seems somewhat vague to some people with a mental health

    Hey Annie_1...thankyou for recommending the Headspace App! Always great to read your helpful posts

    Hey Jasjit....You mentioned 'mindfulness is something when we immerse ourselves in the task that we are currently doing or engaging in' ....Thankyou for sharing your experience with others and thus providing support too!

    Im way behind on my follow-ups tranzcrybe....EM Thankyou heaps for contributing to the discussion with your valued life experience

    my kindest always

    Paul

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    28 September 2020 in reply to blondguy

    Hello everyone,

    Over the past few months I have been collecting old magazines and bits and pirces to do a collage. I kept puttit off then I decided to just do it.

    I am not good at cutting with scissors, i have no artistic skills, no sense of space no sense of aesthetics but I just started cutting and pasting.

    I noticed I was making chooses and not worrying about the comments my partner was suggesting. I stayed in the moment and refused to judge my work and just filled a paper with lots of colour and images.

    Maybe not mindfulness but for someone like me whose brain never stops thinking, I was in the moment and kept cutting and pasting.

    For a few moments I forgot all those teachers who said I was messy and couldn't cut properly, the teachers who said I had no artistic bone in my body and my family who laughed at my attempts to do anything that didn't involve words.

    I am now thinking of my second one.

    I wonder can anyone relate to this.

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    28 September 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    Hello Dear Quirky...

    I think you were being mindful and living in the present while you were doing your lovely collage..because you were putting your full self into it...

    You teachers and family were so wrong...If only they could see you and your collage, they would admit those words they spoke to you so many years back were meaningless, negative comments they made because they didn’t know the full meaning of art... Art is a way to expression our thoughts and feeling, it’s not a perfect painting or picture, it’s you, me and everyone putting their inner self onto paper...

    Mindfulness is spending time with you..the complete you..allowing your thoughts and body become one with whatever your doing at the time...Well done lovely Quirky..

    My mindfulness is me sitting outside with the gumtree across from me..starting at the roots and slowly travelling up looking at the trunk and the way the many branches form weird and strange shapes then the many leaves that sway in the wind....mindfulness is a beautiful way to live with only ourselves for a few moments in the present...

    We both done some soul healing mindfulness and that is helping ourselves...

    Kind thoughts with care Dear Quirky and everyone reading...

    Grandy..

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    28 September 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    hey there quirky,

    not sure if I mentioned this here before ... mindfulness vs mindlessness ...

    something like waking up, going and having a shower, getting dressed, having breakfast, etc. can be classed as mindlessness activities as you are running on auto-pilot and do not have to think about what you are doing. You just do it.

    art can then be a mindful activity where the colors, textures pull us into the moment. Here you only require a sense of freedom and curiosity. You are not thinking about the past or imagining the future.

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    29 September 2020 in reply to smallwolf

    hello all

    Grandy thanks for your comments.

    i can see you among the gum trees.

    smallwolf

    I understand the difference between mindlessness and mindfulness.

    Thanks for explaining.

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    3 October 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    Hi Everyone! Quirky..Grandy....and Tim for assisting the readers and members of the forums!

    Has anyone noticed how 'some' health professionals mention ' have you tried mindfulness?' to people that are experiencing anxiety/depression?

    Just my humble opinion ...I think that 'Mindlessness' makes a lot more sense

    What do you think?

    Have a really good weekend everyone! Hey Tim!

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    3 October 2020 in reply to quirkywords
    Quirky,

    That is great. I'm glad you were able to remove the negative comments from your thoughts and enjoy the process. Even better you are thinking about the next one.

    Very proud and happy for you.

    Cmf x
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    3 October 2020 in reply to CMF

    Hello all

    thanks CMF and Paul.

    i think it can be helpful for health professionals to mention mindfulness as long as it explained so that people don’t feel pressured if they have trouble doing mindfulness.

    For ages I felt bad because I felt I could do not do mindfulness while everyone else seemed they could.

    That is why this thread is encouraging and helpful without putting on pressure.

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    3 October 2020 in reply to blondguy

    Hi Paul et al,

    "Just my humble opinion ...I think that 'Mindlessness' makes a lot more sense"

    I guess it's possible to get hung up on the terminology over methodology, but you are right - Mindful can be misleading if taken incorrectly as "filling one's mind" with anything.

    At the same time, Mindless has other connotations which have nothing to do with "emptying the mind", but again, I see where you are coming from on this point.

    Releasing superfluous thoughts (including negativity and 'self chatter'), paradoxically, is the essence of Mindfulness - being aware of what your mind is holding onto without purpose (think of it like holding a large rock - no reason, but it sits there and drains energy nonetheless) and allows rationality to ask "Why am I continuing to retain this thought?" and thus gives rise to simply letting it go.

    How many 'rocks' do we carry around with us every day without ever realising it? They are there but we are not mindful of them to take action (I'm sure we could easily dredge up a past memory of trauma - if that is possible, then that is a 'rock' weighing us down). Even if we try to 'store' them in the dark recesses of our mind, we are still dragging them around with us - unwittingly or intentionally hanging on to the suffering, for what purpose?

    What's worse, negative experiences seem to have power over us to dictate when we shall heed their call - in such instances, they choose when to become mindful of us!

    Perhaps Mindfulness could be summed up as taking back control of the thoughts you choose to embrace, those to discard, and others that have overstayed their welcome.

    Regards all,

    t.

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    3 October 2020 in reply to tranzcrybe

    Tranczrybe

    Thanks for your interesting response.

    You wrote :”Why am I continuing to retain this thought?" and thus gives rise to simply letting it go.“

    Sometimes it is not so simple.to just letting thoughts go when they are being repeated.

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    3 October 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    @Quirky - there was an exercise I had to do. It was one assoc. with ACT and the ideas was to put the thought on the thought onto the side of the bus and watch it drive off. GUESS WHAT! The bus was on some sort of loop - the same thoughts kept coming back and the same bus.

    @Everyone- Putting aside any issues with what mindfulness is or is not, there is also a great variety of strategies and forms and exercises and coping tools. Rather than getting fixated on definitions and the like, each finding our own ways to deal with our thoughts.... some might be easier with aural exercises, others with art, or using our hands, etc.

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    4 October 2020 in reply to smallwolf
    Walking is a exercise. It can also be a mindful exercise (at the same time)!
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    4 October 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    Hi Quirky,

    Always glad to hear your detailed attention to my prattling!

    I have a cousin who, while playing polo, had his horse fall on top of him during a game. Sadly, he suffered severe brain damage and I recalled in hospital that he was still 'holding' his mallet (of course it was no longer there) with a firm grip, close to his chest - it was the retention of his latest memory which had become 'frozen' at that moment.

    Over time, and much rehabilitation, he reconfigured his brain to a semblance of normality - long since realising the mallet was no longer relevant to him, he could freely release his mind and grip with confidence to tackle the future without clinging to the past.

    Of course, this is a physical brain injury and not emotional trauma, but in some ways it illuminates the principle.

    I guess time is the key, and time heals (albeit not without leaving its scars).

    Regards,

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    4 October 2020 in reply to smallwolf
    I like walking not sure for mindfulness but for clearing my mind and thinking of things to write about.
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    7 November 2020 in reply to quirkywords
    I wonder if mindfulness can help with negative emotions on just on focusing and clearing the mind.
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    7 November 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    hi quirky.... I am no expert but what I can tell you is this - mindfulness comes in many forms and can be done both formally and informally. An informal way might be when you do the dishes and doing that activity mindfully. Something like ACT is more about learning and acceptance of thoughts as thoughts and living with these.

    If there is one thing I have worked out from reading ... most of the morning activities could become mindful activities - from showering, making and eating breakfast, brush teeth. In the evening, making dinner, eating, cleaning up etc.

    Time and patience.

    Knowing it is OK if your mind wanders. And then bringing the mind back to the present moment. Of course, some methods might work better than others for each of us.and diagnosis we have. Hope that has not confused the issue.

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    8 November 2020 in reply to smallwolf
    Following my last post I wanted to see how well it would work....

    About half way through my shower. I did acknowledge the thought and then my mind back to my shower. And then a few more times.

    My point is that it is not always easy. And having a wandering mind is ok. if you bring focus back to the present.

    And perhaps rather than saying I failed ...

    I did it and I will do it again tomorrow.

    Remembering the story of the sheep in the paddock.
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    8 November 2020 in reply to smallwolf

    hey tim

    i agree it's not easy

    i can only manage it for short spurts of mindful activity/awareness

    some of the meditations do even talk about your mind wandering and how that's fine and okay and to just gently go back to the excercise. i think it's all part of it and okay

    i also sometimes think "wow i did really well today at meditating" or "i did really bad - it's not workng at all today" - but then remind myself it's nt on a scale

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    8 November 2020 in reply to Guest_1643

    I have been doing some study regarding mindfulness. Some notes I made

    Practice isn’t easy. It is in the nature of the mind to wander. Each time you notice your mind has wandered, it’s not a problem. Congratulate yourself because you’re already back on track. If your mind wanders a thousand times, you simply bring it back a thousand times.

    All you can do is practice to the best of your ability and do not compare yourself with anyone else or where you think you should be. Just be where you are, and let that be enough.

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    9 November 2020 in reply to smallwolf

    Thanks smallwolf,

    I think I don’t have the patience to bring my mind back a thousand times but I am aware after a while , and after a few times I would try again another time.

    As I have written before doing something and concentrating on that whether it be walking, mopping, sorting out books may not be mindfulness but helps me more than sitting in a chair try to focus on my breathing. I think we find what helps us.

    Thanks smallwolf for your patient explanations.

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    9 November 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    hi quirky - you mentioned

    sorting out books

    this could be made into a mindful practice / exercise and would then be seen as an informal exercise. That does not invalidate it a mindful practice - it is just a way of categorising it. Say, if someone said that is not a mindful exercise, you can say that it is.

    So how would you turn sorting into a mindful exercise?

    Use your eyes to look at the book, how does it smell, is it old or new etc.You might think about the prev. owner, or or far it might be travelled to get to you. You might ruffle the pages, or listen to the sound of the turning a page.

    So if a breathing exercise does not work well for you... do what does! And walking, mopping and sorting book can become mindful practices.

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    11 November 2020 in reply to tranzcrybe

    Hi Everyone!..and Quirky...Tim...tranzcrybe...Sleepy21...Annie1 for the super helpful contributions re 'mindfulness'

    Hey tranzcrybe .....Its excellent to have your input and life experience on the forums. More importantly...I am sorry about your cousin t.

    I grow weary of health professionals asking 'have you tried mindfulness?' to a person with anxiety/depression....especially when the person suffering has no idea what the HP is talking about.

    Hey Tim....Quirky...thankyou

    have a good week amazing people :-)

    Paul

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