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Topic: Night Owls (for those awake late and can't sleep)

  1. Monique.xox
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    2 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hi

    This is my first post & just read your post. Wowww as I was reading your post İ just kept feeling....ok this is me to a T :(( just like to say I really can relate & thanks for sharing

  2. Black Bubblegum
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    Up and awake, just have some music on my headphones, just trying to think of better times.

    I do like the night, the quiet is nice. Before Covid times, I used to go for early hours walks around my neighbourhood sometimes, just enjoying the quiet and fresh air.

  3. Harpbird
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    3 June 2021 in reply to Black Bubblegum
    Hey black bubblegum, I’d be too scared talk around at night , too many dogs, enough come out barking in the daytime
  4. Moniques
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    4 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21
    Hey everyone I'm new here I suffer from anxiety depression sucks
  5. Matchy69
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    5 June 2021 in reply to Moniques

    Hi Monique's and welcome to the forums.This a great safe place to talk with caring understanding people.

    Take care,

    Mark.

  6. randomx
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    7 June 2021 in reply to Matchy69

    For yrs l was an all nighter l'd get to sleep 5 or 6 am an hr or two before work. Love the night.

    Well been in training last 12 mths and l get 6 ot 7hrs now with a little nap in the arvo after work. But 2am comes around so damn fast , drives me nuts and it's over , gotta sleep for my training or l'll slip back. Day light use to come around so fast it was so disappointing and the nights over in a flash.

    So now it's 2am, which goes in 10mins. The pain.

    rx

  7. quirkywords
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    7 June 2021 in reply to randomx

    It’s 2am and I have been awake for 30 mins.
    random in have not slept for more than 2 hrs at a stretch for decades.

    a big hello to everyone who is awake who would rather be asleep.

  8. randomx
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    7 June 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    Yeah right. that was me but over 12mths now l've been doing my training and it's working pretty good, sleep ok lately but l have to draw the line at 2 or l'll be back to all nighters,

    How have you coped quirk does it effect you or ? l was actually fine not sleeping , if anything l'm more tired now with sleeping so it's weird really.

  9. Lillylane
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    11 June 2021

    Just wondering - does anyone sleep with a light on?

    I’ve generally avoided it, thinking maybe it would keep me awake. But lately after waking from nightmares, I’ve tried leaving a lamp on and it seems to help me get back to sleep.

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    12 June 2021 in reply to Lillylane

    Dear Lillylane~

    I find having a small light on when I wake from a nightmare helps me orient more quickly and lets the unpleasant dream fade. Being in the dark makes that time longer (no reference points in the real world I guess).

    Croix

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    12 June 2021 in reply to Croix

    Hello

    I’ve been waking a couple of times a night for months now. Rather than just stay in bed unsettled I get up & make an early start on the puzzles I like to do each day (it’s amazing how much easier they are though later in the morning lol).

    I often have a warm cuppa but a couple of nights ago I was hungry & there was nothing “nice” to eat so I baked a cake! It went in the oven at 3.40am & out at 4.20. I’ve never done that before ever!

    In the bad old days I’d be so angry & cross with myself for being awake - “I’m going to be so tired tomorrow” kind of thing. I find it’s better just to accept it these days & actually do something until I get sleepy again.

    Cheers for now, T.

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  12. Ggrand
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    12 June 2021 in reply to topsy_

    Hello everyone..

    I really hope you cut yourself a slice of warm cake after you made it....You so much deserve it after cooking at that time in the morning....It would have made your house smell sooo goood.....

    I don’t leave a light on..but I do have a bedside lamp I put on if I awaken from nightmares...Then I get up and make a cuppa tea...lay on the lounge with the tv on or a sleep story...eventually falling asleep again...

    Grandy

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  13. quirkywords
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    12 June 2021 in reply to Ggrand

    Hello all

    I have a question for everyone.

    Do you have a clock near your bed amd if so do you look at the. Lock each time you wake up.??

    I was told I would sleep enter if I didn’t know the time. I tried it but I still wake up 8 to ten times a night.
    just interested if people find knowing the time affects sleep patterns.

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    13 June 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    Hi Quirky,

    Most of the time I check the clock each time I wake up. However sometimes I fall asleep somewhere where there isn’t a clock around, but I still seem to wake just as often.

    Oh, waking up 8 to 10 times is rough Quirky! This must be exhausting and I feel for you.

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    13 June 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    Hello Quirky and everyone...

    No I don’t have a clock in my bedroom...I used to when I was working and Monday nights I set my phone alarm so I’m not late at the op shop....

    I find having a clock in my bedroom is a stress factor because if I wake up through the night and see the time, then I start worrying about the approaching morning..which makes going back to sleep a lot harder for me.....

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  16. gld
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    18 June 2021

    Hi to all,

    Lately i find myself rolling around for hours and waking at a pin drop.

    This impacts my awake time. I feel also carry some social anxiety and fear of connection with others.

    Reading has given me great starting points although mending some of my bad behaviours and getting started i am finding it hard. I feel i am my own wall that lets me begin.

    Please feel free to give me some tips to move forward and pull my head out of the sand.

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  17. food lover
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    I wake up multiple times through the night, when I am extremely tired and know i won't sleep i take sleeping pills, this happens 2-3 times a week. For me what helps is reading a book for 30 minutes beforehand, however i still wake up many times, as far as i can remember I've never slept well.
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  18. Guest5734
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    26 June 2021 in reply to Lillylane
    Lillylane, I find it helps to have a lamp whose switch I can reach from bed. The switch is on the cord and I have cabled-tied the cord to my bed so it doesn't fall down. I deliberately chose a dim bulb for the light so it's not too startling, and so I can leave it on overnight if necessary. However, usually it is enough to have it off but with the switch there. :)
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  19. Lillylane
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    27 June 2021 in reply to Guest5734

    Thank you, that’s a great idea for making the lamp switch easy to get to at night :)

    Have had some knee pain discomfort and have found placing a small pillow under my knees while I sleep has helped a lot.

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    29 June 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    Hey Quirky and gentle sleepy waves to everyone reading lol.

    Your question about clocks in the bedroom.
    I've probably always been on the insomniac end of the sleep routine spectrum.
    I know now that waking up often throughout the night has been partially explained by trauma, since being diagnosed with C-PTSD. The rest is biological I think.

    About 20y ago I just decided to take the alarm clock out of my bedroom.
    I have no clocks in my bedroom whatsoever.
    This helped A LOT.

    About 35y ago I stopped wearing a watch altogether. I preferred to "sense" what time it was and not keep looking at my watch a billion times a day.

    When I was pretty anxious about beginning at a very new job in all ways, I wasn't sleeping well at all. Eventually, instead of turning on the light and getting up, I would leave the room dark and scribble on a Scrapbook with a crayon I had next to my bed on the floor, writing whatever it was that worried me about setting up my new job (or whatever else was disturbing my sleep).

    I had to rebirth this strategy during the Courts phase.
    Just SO many things to remember for affidavits etc.

    At my worst I would wake every 30-40 mins. Sometimes only have 45 mins sleep in a night. The PTSD was full on during these times. I didn't know about it then though.

    If I get 8h sleep in a night I must be ill lol!
    I do well on 6h sleep. That's just me.

    Apparently as a baby, I barely slept. As a toddler the adults needed to hold my legs and arms still while someone closed my eyes with their hands and sang a lullaby.
    Yep I think I've had some form of ADHD since birth.

    The fact my very young mother was all alone in a foreign country assisting in operating theatres as a Nurse, while a war was happening AND being pregnant with me can explain the beginnings of the trauma I believe. What she saw was nothing short of horrific.

    Anyhoo yep, no clocks in the bedroom lol.

    Love EM

    A HUGE WARM WELCOME TO FOOD LOVER! We hope you enjoy the forums and we are so happy you've joined us!
    Love EM

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  21. quirkywords
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    29 June 2021 in reply to food lover

    Welcome food lover thanks for your post. Like you I have never slept well.

    Eco, thanks for your detailed answer.

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  22. randomx
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    30 June 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    Has anyone found that when they do start sleeping again , they end up needing even more and sleep ?

    l've been in training well over 12mths now and went from 2, 3, 4 hrs a night for yrs to now to now a good regular 6 or 7, sometimes 8 a night. Reasonable hr , 12ish -1. And l've got into the habit of an afternoon siesta too after work , that could be 20 mins to 2hrs.

    Yet these days now , l'm always bloody tired , l was never tired when l was sleeping much. lt doesn't make sense .

    Ps , l can't sleep without a clock , if l don;t have the time handy l tend to lay awake wondering all night. But if l keep a clock l just check the time and then know l still have whatever hours left to sleep and l'll just nod of again.

    rx

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  23. eight
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    30 June 2021 in reply to randomx
    sleeping 8 hours is being just as tired without the excuse
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  24. randomx
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    30 June 2021 in reply to eight

    Yeah your not kidding it's ridiculous.

    Think l was happier before not sleeping.

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  25. Harpbird
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    3 July 2021
    Hi to all those still up, in recliner just watching the fire, so mesmerising
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  26. Lillylane
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    3 July 2021 in reply to Harpbird

    Hi Harpbird,

    That sounds super comfortable.
    Falling asleep to the sound of rain is my favourite thing. We had a little rain earlier but it’s stopped now.

    Lillylane

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  27. ecomama
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    4 July 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    Hey Quirky, you're welcome.

    How are you doing all in all?

    I think about you alot and wonder how you're doing.

    Hey rx,
    Sure for a while, like 2 years lol, I found that when I was able to get a continuous 4-6h sleep per night (which was INCREDIBLY more than before) yes I was tired throughout the day.

    For me it took a lot of discipline, like a LOT.
    Well over half a Century of sleep habits that were just all over the place takes a long haul of RE-conditioning.

    With the kids needing to be picked up after midnight so often during the week, I often have a nap after I drop them off. I'm a bit OCD about it, I count the hours I napped if they were hours, then take that off what I KNOW I need for the rest of the night.

    Once the kids all have their driver's licenses then I guess I'll have more boring sleep routines to make lol ugh!

    What works for me is being physically tired, having enough to eat, knowing the kids are all safe and having a comfortable bed.
    Walking the kajillion steps at work each day really helps! omg.

    Gardening on the weekends is another exhauster.

    EMxxxx

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  28. Harpbird
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    4 July 2021 in reply to Lillylane
    Yes lillylane, the crackle and of the fire is soothing, and the flickering light up on the ceiling .
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  29. Lillylane
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    7 July 2021 in reply to Harpbird

    Maybe my second favourite sound to fall asleep to is the sound of the waves at the beach.

    I saw and heard the sea today for the first time in years. Quite emotional for me and I wish I could have spent the whole day there. The cold didn’t seem to matter.

    Hello to all those awake tonight.

  30. Guest9337
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    7 July 2021 in reply to Lillylane

    G'day Lillylane,

    I'm up watching the tour de france.

    party hard.

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