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  1. Doolhof
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    17 October 2015 in reply to pipsy

    Dear Pipsy, hello dear precious lady, you are beautiful, inside and out!

    Thanks for sharing your story with us. We all need to feel like we are needed, attractive, cared for and loved by someone. I hope you are able to let go of the hurt and just accept the happiness you felt when you read how much someone admired you.

    Many years ago I had penfriends from around the world. I received a letter funnily enough from the USA as well, it was from a gay guy who thought I was a bloke. (My name is a man's name in the USA) He made suggestions of all kinds of things we could do together in his very first letter! Ha. Ha. Hence I did not reply to him.

    I myself have been open to the kind words of another man wanting a bit on the side (it didn't happen). He filled me with flattery, kind words and made my motor sing. I was hurt, angry and upset, but then tried to take the positives out of it and looked at myself as a beautiful person who didn't need anyone else to make me feel good about myself.

    That is not to say that I don't appreciate praise and nice comments when they come my way! Ha. Ha.

    It is wonderful that you were able to comprehend what was happening and you were wise enough to be aware of what was happening.

    Yes you were scammed, but oh how wonderfully it was done. Take the compliments and try to forget the rest.

    Here's sending you some sisterly cyber hugs. From Lauren

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    17 October 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Hi Philip and Mary, and Everyone else reading,

    I have enjoyed reading your messages about faith. Philip, you mentioned you would not mention other parts of the teachings you are aware of due to knowing people believe in God. I feel that Australia is made up of so many different nationalities, faiths and customs, that you are able to share your experiences.

    You are certainly not indicating that one religion is far more superior or correct in their beliefs compared to another. Many religions and faiths around the world are intrinsically based on love and caring for others. It is us humans who distort and change things to suit our own desires.

    I do have a faith in the Christian God. I do not believe that one Christian religion has ownership of this God, He is a God of the universe, no one can own Him. Once again Christians and non Christians alike can distort the truths that are in the Bible.

    For me, my faith gives me the principles I try to live by. I too agree that being spiritually aware helps us with our depression and mental illnesses. I find great comfort in believing that God is always with me, that He is watching over me, that He loves and cares for me constantly.

    Jesus tells us that we are welcome to lay all of our burdens on Him. Many times I have had tears running down my face doing just that. The sense of peace that I feel within me during this process is amazing.

    I'm not saying that Christianity is the only answer for everyone, but it is for me. My husband believes in Aliens and I have a sister that believes in Witches.

    If something brings us a sense of peace, reassurance and it does not hurt anyone else, then let's take those things on board.

    Cheers for now from Mrs. Dools

     

  3. pipsy
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    17 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi Lauren.  Thanks for the 'hugs', it's good to know I'm not alone.  I was more annoyed with myself for allowing myself to believe this was true.  How thoughtless and cruel some people are.  They prey on the weak, uneducated person to take everything from them.  If this person contacts me again (doubtful), I will ignore.  I just hope others reading my story will learn how these scams operate.  People are being 'fleeced' every day to part with their hard earned money.  How do we stop this sort of thing?  I know the police are powerless because they use fake i.d's, they pose as solo parents, homeless charity cases anything to get money. 

    Again - thanks for posting my story.  I've had a great life lately,  My other half has no idea about this, he'd be furious if he knew.  Probably tell me off.  I didn't need a lecture, just a hug that you sent me. 

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    17 October 2015 in reply to pipsy

    Hi Pipsy,

    I agree with you, these people that try to scam others out of their money and even their homes and self worth are real low lifes.

     Some of them are obviously extremely convincing!

    My parents were caught out with someone scamming them by phoning and saying they had something wrong with the computer. Mum and Dad lost hundreds of dollars.

    Recently here in S.A. people are sending out letters stating that you owe a lot of money to the tax department and if you don't pay immediately you will receive a hefty fine. Even some business men have been caught in this one as apparently as the paperwork all looks so convincing!

    I remember one time years ago, I had just moved into a rented house when one night there was a knock at the door. I wouldn't open it until I had called out and asked who was there. The answer was "The Police". I said yer, right, who is it? It actually was the police. They were looking for the previous lady who used to live in the house I was in. Thankfully the Police knew whom they were looking for and it wasn't me.

    Regarding this scam Pixie, at least now you know how easily it happens, so if something else comes up you will be more aware! It can happen to anyone. Thanks for sharing this with us all!

    Cheers again, from Lauren

     

  5. BKYTH
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    19 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof
    I didn't want to talk about God because I was aware that you had a belief in one. Equally I am being cautious in mentioning God so as not to offend anyone else who might get involved in the discussion. For myself, I have no interest in whether God exists or not and I feel that the Buddha took such an attitude himself.                                    The Buddha is called agnostic but I feel that he misunderstood in labeling him that. What he taught is not a religion or a faith also it called both of these and that is to be expected. He taught that there is no soul/self and that insight/knowledge can be achieved, and in gaining this, it is possible overcome suffering.                                     Insight meditation is focused on gaining knowledge and not on developing faith and my own focus is on establishing the first. Having said that I am not being critical of religion nor of people of faith. I don't and the Buddha certainly didn't say that he had the 'only way' or the 'truth', and only the briefest glance at human history will reveal the carnage caused by those who do.                                                                      I very much admire your realization that no religion has ownership of God. This persistent attitude of most religions, and the insistence that their God is the true God, has been the cause of an appalling amount of human misery and death over the millennia.                                                                                                                                     Were I a theist I would wish to proclaim, as Carl Jung did when speaking on the existence of God "I don't need to believe. I know". As a species we are still in our infancy in discussing spiritual issues. While 'interfaith' discussions seem to offer some way forward there still remain serious problems.                                                       Your description of laying all your burdens on 'him' is very moving and you should nourish 'his' willingness' to gather you in 'his' arms with love as I'm sure you do. That sense of "peace" is to be in the presence of God. It is a glimpse of immortality.                                                                                                                                                              What I do is different - How many times do you hear people say they 'suffer' from this or that? I have this or that but I choose not to 'suffer' from it.                                                                                                                                            Philip.
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    20 October 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Hi Philip,

    Thanks for your consideration to myself and others about being a little guarded with your expressions regarding faith and beliefs. I find your comments to be very informative. Other people may also gain insight from all that you share.

    I believe that people can have a healthy discussion about God, gods in general, faith, religion and the belief also that there are no gods or powers higher than one self.

    You are so right in saying there have been and still are many conflicts and wars all around the world from the beginning of time due to people's faith and belief.

    I for one am totally horrified by what is coming out in the news at present regarding the amount of abuse and despicable acts done to innocent children through religious organisations and some of the people working there.

    Yes, I do have a belief in God and I feel that without it I struggle to be the person whom I desire to be. I do not have a faith that believes everything that some Christians proclaim to be the truth. Once again I openly admit that horrific perpetrations have been inflicted on innocent people by the name of Christianity.

    This forum is a very tolerant place to have a discussion. Our "chat" is certainly open to anyone who has an opinion one way or another.

    Some of us are able to find a sense of inner peace through all kinds of means, for me it is by thinking of the love and care I feel when I connect with God.

    It is certainly not for me to judge anyone else for their beliefs, or for their desire to not have any at all.  In stating that I have a belief in God, I also know that I am human like everyone else and I make mistakes, I am not perfect by an means. I certainly don't claim to have any superiority above any one else because of my faith.

    There is no way I can prove to someone else that God exits. It is a heart thing!

    I'm enjoying this discussion and this thread! If anyone else reading this would like to add their opinion, you are most welcome to do so.

    Cheers for now, wishing you all a peaceful day! From Mrs. Dools

    I congratulate and applaud people who are able to have a comfortable sense of self.

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    20 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi Lauren.  Pip here.  You're not going to believe this or maybe you are.  I had another post from that U.S.A guy I told you about previously, the other day.  No more mention of money, that's still to come I think.  I'm getting p*** off with other half at the moment.  Everytime I try to have a conversation with him, he listens for a few minutes, then either jokes or makes a 'humming' sound.  He's not asleep, claims he's listening, but not really 'hearing' me.  I feel totally alone when he does this.  I've tried telling him how I feel, but he just says 'I'm listening'.  I don't necessarily want an answer, just to know he's interested.  I know he has OCD, I think there is also a short attention span.  I sometimes think, he thinks, he should say something, doesn't know what to say, so jokes instead.  I don't do that myself, I couldn't.  I've suffered 'Black Dog' for years, but know how to deal with that now.  BB has given me some pointers which work.  Just don't know how to deal with this situation.  Any thoughts? 

     

  8. BKYTH
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    22 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof
    Yes. I agree. Discussion is always preferable to debate. There are two things I always seek to avoid in discussions on spiritual issues. The first is to challenge the other persons position while the second is having to defend my own. It would be extremely arrogant of me to assume that I have a superior position on this issue than the other person has and therefore a right to challenge their point of view.                                                                                         Spiritual awareness is very much an individual thing and it would seem obvious to me that, as such, it will find expression in many different ways. I must admit, although I have never had a belief in God, there have been many difficult periods throughout my life when I wish  that I had, or was able to have such a belief.                                                                                                                                             Over the years I've tried to understand why I am unable to believe in the existence of God. I've considered my own experience of sexual and psychological abuse at the hands of the clergy and nuns (an area that has yet to be explored) as nuns equally have much to hide but don't think that those experiences have anything to do with it. Of course in considering that issue I wonder what it is that others experience and understand that experience as being an expression of a supreme being and therefore have a belief in God.                                                                    In accepting the different spiritual view points of others (however different they might be to your own) I think in itself is a spiritual act. Such acceptance draws people together at a most fundamental and human level and allows the divine or the transpersonal (that which is apart from one's own personal experience) to find voice. How much more is possible in that kind of environment than one in which there is a clash of differences with the inevitable conflict which ensures when those present proclaim that their 'truth', their 'God' is the only 'truth' and their 'God' the only God.                                                                                                                                                             I ran out of words in my last post. What I would have said is that I don't think the statement "I suffer from depression" or whatever is helpful. You might as well say "I suffer from being alive". TBC.
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    23 October 2015 in reply to pipsy
    That type of person is known as a cat fish ( A bottom feeder) I have had several of them did not fall for there lies I stick to people in my own area even then I still have been ripped off
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    23 October 2015 in reply to pipsy

    Dear Pipsy,

    Hi. It sounds like the grass may be looking greener on the other side of the fence! This is certainly not a judgement of any kind as I have been there and thought about doing that more than once!

    I can tell my husband there is an elephant in the bath and he will say, "that's good dear". I talk to him and he does not answer. When I tell him that I would like some kind of acknowledgement he tells me that he has answered, but he hasn't uttered a word.

    Some days I find it so frustrating and infuriating. I feel like he is treating me like I am not even there, that he is being rude and disrespectful, which I believe he is. If a person speaks to someone, they expect some kind of acknowledgement.

    Occasionally he will even answer me by talking to the cat! I have decided that is his problem, that he has an issue with communication and it is not me. It is extremely infuriating at times mind you. Sometimes I ask him if he has heard me and sometimes I just walk away and try not to be hurt by his lack of acknowledgement.

    Regarding this person from the USA. Right now the offer to engage with someone who is willing to fill you with flattery is very enticing no doubt! Who doesn't want to feel like they are acknowledged and praised by someone.

    Is it possible for you to form just a friendship with this person? It may be best for you to ignore them altogether, but who can ignore a delicious morsel of something extremely attractive? Ha. Ha.

    If you do connect with this person again, just be extremely careful as to what you divulge to them. Don't tell them anything they may be able to use to cause you any harm.

    Just think, this person may not be a guy at all, it may be a lady who is trying to con you out of your millions! People can use another person's identity and photos to portray themselves as whom ever they like to the world.

    I personally would love someone to tell me how special I am ever day of my life and to build up my spirits. That would be a huge boost to my ego and sense of self worth instead of a husband who doesn't bother to answer me when I talk to him...or who jumps down my throat the moment I arrive home from a hard day at work when all he has been doing is sit on his butt all day in front of the computer or t.v. as he has done for the last two years. That is a whole different story. Ha. Ha.

    Cheers for now from Lauren

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    23 October 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Thanks for an enlightening discussion on religion. You have explained issues on faith and belief in a way that I have been thinking but unable to place into words. You express yourself so wonderfully.

    A family member appears to have great pleasure in knocking my Christian beliefs. As I have mentioned previously, I am so aware of all the horrendous events and activities that have happened and still occur due to people and their religious beliefs. I am very willing to admit and acknowledge that Christians have perpetrated and participated in atrocities on fellow humans.

    This family member does not allow me to have freedom of speech to express my own beliefs. According to him, he knows everything about religion and you would think that he has a personal connection with all the gods in the world to make an informed statement on if they really exist or not.

    Occasionally I become extremely tired of his Christianity bashing, but as he is an elder, I listen patiently to what he is saying. On one occasion I stated "All I can say is that when we both die, one of us is in for a big surprise!"

    I am very sorry to read that you had to endure suffering and abuse from both Nuns and other members of the clergy. I have heard a little of the abuse children have received from Nuns, but there doesn't seem to be as much acknowledgement of this side of the abuse.

    While doing Children's studies we had a session on paedophiles. For some reason I had never thought of a female as being a paedophile. How naive was I ! I certainly understand that females can be just as brutal and can hurt people just as much as men can. I'm heading a little off track here.

    Like you wrote, religion is a very personal thing. My siblings and I were brought up as Christians. I am now the only one in our family who still holds on to those Christian beliefs.

    To me a belief in God is acknowledging their is a being that is greater than anything or anyone on this earth. It is like having a presence of love, peace, forgiveness, direction, guidance, hope, kindness and so much more with you all of the time. To me it does not mean that life is always going to be perfect! In the Bible it tells me there will be times of hardship and difficulties, but I can turn to God and He will comfort me.

    My faith also provides me with the belief that there is existence after death, that heaven does exist, in a way that I myself on earth can never comprehend. Death is not the end for me.

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    23 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof
    Hi Lauren.  It's definitely a guy, he has posted a picture of himself and 9 year old son on fb.  I have decided to keep writing as penpal only.  He has made no demands whatsoever for money.   I told him a little about myself, my job, my interests.  I have told him nothing about my financial situation and he hasn't asked anything.  It turns out he's still on good terms with his ex, because of the child who lives with him.  I've actually had a post from his wife and she's quite nice.  She said she's pleased he has found a friend as he's quite a loner.  Don't know why they divorced, not my business.  He apparently is just lonely and wants a friend, he apologized for being forward, but still said he thought I was gorgeous.  His wife's actually invited me over to stay if I'm interested.  I think I have 2 penpals as a result.  I will be very careful not to get involved in any situation that could cause me embarrassment though.  The situation with hubby has made me realize how lonely I am for adult companionship.  It is nice to know someone is interested enough to ask what sort of day I've had, then actually listen instead of criticizing when I try to explain  difficulties I may have had.  My job involves working with the general public who can be fickle, plus a guy who puts me down because I have a Kiwi accent.  When I told hubby, he said 'rise above it'.  Easy for him, this happened on 3 separate occasions.  Hubby and I lead separate lives most of the time, he's busy with his interests.  Worries too much about elderly parents who tried to break us up.  He's emotionally immature and tends to jump to their tune.  It's hardly surprising I'm flattered by another man's interest.     
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    23 October 2015 in reply to pipsy

    Dear Pipsy

    A comment about your new friend. It may appear you are receiving emails from his ex but it may also be the chappie himself using a different persona. And the photograph is not necessarily of him. Sorry, don't want to sound too negative. It's just you cannot be certain of anything on computer because it is so easy to manipulate information.

    Having said that I hope this person is genuine and you enjoy your conversations.

    Take care

    Mary

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    23 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Lauren and Philip

    Thanks for continuing the conversation. I have been off the air just lately so have not had the opportunity to join in.

    I have a deep faith in God and like Jung I don't need to believe, I know. My beliefs run very much in tandem with Lauren. I must also point out I have no angst with anyone who has a different faith or belief. All the major religions of the world preach love and tolerance and I am bemused when so many people use their belief to justify harming others in any way. It really is inconceivable.

    My belief in God gives me a role model, although that is a very superficial description. There is a reason for caring for others rather than accumulating my own storehouse of goodies. Because I believe God cares for me I am able to love others. My spirituality gives me a deep connection with the world.

    Mary

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    24 October 2015 in reply to White Rose
    Thank you for caring Mary.  I'm pretty certain everything is kosher, however I will heed the warning.  He still hasn't asked anything about giving money, neither has she.  They don't even mention money.  I am on my guard though.  She seems interested in my job, has asked what I do.  When I mentioned about being hassled because of my accent, she just said some people derive pleasure from putting others down because that's how they communicate.  His name is Frank, hers is Janice.  There is a son Denim.  I've also heard from him.  he's told me about his school which is similar to here.  She's quite pretty. 
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    26 October 2015 in reply to pipsy

    Hi Pipsy,

    Once again I can certainly understand your appreciation of someone who makes you feel good about yourself. It does sound like you are being careful as to what you divulge to your new friends. It is a very sad reflection of our society when you can not trust someone to portray themselves for who they actually are.

    There are so many stories on the internet where people think they are conversing with a certain person, when it is someone else altogether. Then again, people have met on the internet and ended up living together and maybe getting married.

    It certainly is a shame when people ridicule others because they are different in some way. I personally like the New Zealand and South African accents. I enjoy listening to some of the cricket commentators from these countries. Actually, I like listening to the people from India talking as well.

    Back to your new friends, they may all just be lonely or friendly people reaching out trying to broaden their horizons. It might be interesting to ask them what their ideas and thoughts are about Australia. Once on holidays in Asia, we met a guy from Malta, he was very surprised that we knew where Malta was.

    Cheers for now from Lauren

     

     

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    26 October 2015 in reply to White Rose

    Hi Mary,

    Thanks for your contribution and thoughts regarding religion, faith and God. As I look around me at the wonders of nature, I see how amazingly everything is planned, balanced and organised, how one animal or plant compliments another and everything seems to be in its right place. That is if you exclude humans! Ha. Ha.

    While working in the home for the elderly years ago, I witnessed the peace many Christians had when it came to the end of their lives. I am mentioning Christians here as I was not ever aware of people in that particular home being of a faith outside of Christianity. There were people who declared they had no faith as well.

    One lady told me she really didn't want to go to heaven as she thought it would be very boring there and all the exciting and lively people would be in hell. This lady said her image of heaven was of everyone sitting around on clouds listening to angels playing harps. It sounds rather peaceful and tranquil to me! I find the sound of the harp to be soothing and almost mesmerising as I watch someone play one.

    Wishing you and everyone reading this a very tranquil and relaxing week!

    Cheers all from Mrs. Dools ( I sign that way as I recently signed off with my own name! Guess it doesn't really matter that much!)

     

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    27 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi there.  Once again the 'pin ' has been pulled.  I heard from the U.S.A last Thursday, nothing since.  I can't be bothered with the rubbish, so I'm going to forget all about them.  People like that, who waste other people's time are not worth it.  I'm actually starting to wonder if these Americans were perhaps looking for a threesome, no way am I getting into that.  At least there was no money exchanged and they never asked for any.  Had they of, I wouldn't have even bothered talking to them.  Since the problem with the guy at work, another girl has come forward complaining of harassment.  I did hear 'on the grapevine' that, that particular guy won't be there much longer so that's a relief.  When you're dealing with the public, workers shouldn't 'bag' each other.  The client I was with last Thursday said she'd heard this guy 'bagging' me and she was quite upset.  The particular client needs two people as she's wheelchair bound.  I worked with another girl last Thursday and it was really pleasant. 

    Thanks for letting me talk. 

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    27 October 2015 in reply to Doolhof
    I'm sorry to hear that you have to endure such a tedious family member. I assume this person to be an atheist. They can be every bit as dogmatic and rigid as the most ardent believer.  I decided years ago that I will never allow anyone to talk down to me. That includes anyone in the psychiatric system as well. If I think a psychiatrist is superficial or judgmental with me I will tell them so and give my reasons why (they can be very egocentric and all knowing in some of their presumptions as well).                                                                                                                      I can think of many ways in which you could disarm such a person but as it is a family member that complicates the matter as I have no understanding of your family dynamics. From your description of the situation the person sounds arrogant and in possession of knowledge he cannot possibly have (knowing everything about religion). There seems to be some pathology there as well as the person takes "great pleasure in knocking your Christian beliefs".                                                 If you as him to tell you the "four noble truths" expounded by the Buddha the persons inability to do so will expose his lie as to 'knowing' everything about religion. Equally you could ask him to explain the fundamental difference between the 'Mahayana' form of Buddhism and the 'Theravada' form of Buddhism and enjoy the silence. Oh. The questions one can ask those who profess to knowing "everything" there is on any subject.           Anyone who does not allow another to have freedom of speech in expressing their beliefs forfeits the right to have such freedom in expressing theirs - Voltaire once said "I disagree with everything you just said but will defend to the death your right to say it" His claim "to the death" is not just hyperbole but it express's just how important freedom of speech is. You could substitute the word 'believe' for the word 'said' and 'say' in that quotation and that is also equally true.                                                                                                                                    I've been trying to finish this point for a few posts now but have always run out of words and it looks like it will happen again so I will do it as a separate post. Its to do with the statement that one so often hears or reads about 'suffering' from depression/anxiety or whatever. Regards one and all. Philip.
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    27 October 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Hello Philip

    I started a thread here a while ago on the 'suffering' issue. It really grates when I hear that someone is 'suffering from...'. Whatever physical, psychological or emotional difficulty a person has is always painful and hard. To me it always sounds as if the 'sufferer' is unable to get well, as in there is no cure, or is enjoying the status of 'suffering'. Of course we hurt and wish we were well. And of course we suffer in the sense we are unwell. But 'suffering' is such a victimizing word and I would hope we can do better than allow ourselves to be victims.

    So I look forward to your comments.

    Mary

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    1 November 2015 in reply to White Rose
    I agree. I finished one post by stating "to say one is suffering from depression or whatever is merely to assert that one is suffering from being alive".  Life without suffering is not an option no more that life without death is.              It is enough to suffer from those things that cause us pain than to adopt the posture of a 'suffering' person. If you are a 'suffering' person who does that contrast with - Those who do not suffer?                                                               You are right in mentioning those people who seem to enjoy their suffering - Aren't they a fun group to be around.   A Buddhist teacher whom I find a very wise man said "If its bad kill it. If it won't die make it good" - A good teacher usually says things in such a way that you are obliged to examine it for its meaning. For me that means that if something you are confronting is difficult for you to deal with change whatever it is that you have to change, seek the help of whoever you need to seek, to solve that difficulty. In other words take responsibility and seek an end to it - If there is no way of resolving the difficulty then learn to live effectively with it without complaint. Make it good.                                                                                For example. I live with chronic pain and having researched the issue of using prescription pain killers and consulting with people at a pain clinic at a major hospital decided that they were not the solution. So I was left with no pain medication (although my doctor has offered it to me) or an operation with all sorts of risks. In other words I could not "kill" it so I had to make it "good".                                                                                                            Its amazing what we are able to live with without thinking of it in terms of 'suffering'. How we think about the situations that we all confront in life is perhaps more important than the situations themselves. I experience depression and can't think of any particular reason why I shouldn't. Others do as well. I have a terminal illness, but guess what, there are others that are in the same situation. I could add other things just as someone else writing this post could about there own particular situation but that is just life. If you examine it it will teach you how to live, how to deal with adversity and how to die, but above all how to laugh.                                                          Philip.
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  22. Mangof
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    17 November 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Hi everyone wow I've been away overseas and am catching up with all the posts it looks like a few very in depth conversations have been happening that's great to see. 

    Thanks for the chance to read some interesting points of view from beliefs to quotes to possible scams it all happens here! 

    I just wanted to say to Philip I really enjoyed your last comment I've been struggling with the whole what or how do I deal with some pretty full on situations in our family life and have been feeling overwhelmed and seeing just a short quote of "if its bad kill it if it won't die make good of it " perfect for me today thanks sometimes it's the little gems that make a difference in our perspective of situations.

    have a great day everyone

    stay happy :)

     

  23. Bluey moon
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    17 November 2015 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi Lauren, 

    I'm fairly new to beyond blue and I always like to make new friends. 

    Skye

  24. BKYTH
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    20 November 2015 in reply to Mangof
    Overseas. I don't know what shade of green I just turned because the only land masses I have traveled between have the different ends of the same bridge attached to them.                                                                                                I think it is our perspectives that we need to work on. Distinguishing the difference between what you can change and what you can't is vital. I examine everything that I read or hear to see if it has substance or not. However distinguished the author of a statement might be it must be examined. There is much that is said that doesn't bear such scrutiny - Consider this often used expression "Everything happens for a reason" Does it? How could you ever prove that that is true?                           If that statement was to be challenged how could you defend it if is was you who uttered it? It may be true but its not obviously so. It is an assertion of fact being presented as though it were a 'truth' or insight into the nature of reality but is it?  It is actually a belief and people are certainly entitled to hold such a belief and I would never challenge someone who said it - For me I would rather possess a little knowledge than have a large storehouse of beliefs because I value the former more than the latter.                                                                                               Which country did you go to? The only chance I have of going overseas is if someone hijacks the manly ferry while I happen to be aboard and directs the captain to sail to New Zealand.                                                                   Philip.
  25. Mangof
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    27 November 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Hi Phillip,

    thanks for the reply, goodness me the thought of going to NZ was somewhat overwhelming months of preparations for emotional turmoil , anxiety medication just to get on board the plane, and during our stay to help with dealing with people and driving seems unworthy of turning green (I'm smiling now as I think of it!)  all n all I managed to survive and now on the other side of it I'm confident that breathing techniques sure help ALOT.

    Now back to my safe zone, family,animals,and garden so much to be grateful for simplicity in its finest.

    stay happy :)

    mangof

     

  26. BKYTH
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    29 November 2015 in reply to Mangof
    The last time I was on a plane was when I went to Bourke. It was a small aircraft and every time we hit a thermal the plane would suddenly drop and I thought I was living my final moments. My hands had to be prised from the armrests before I could leave the plane on arrival.                                                                                                                  On the trip back I prayed to every god I could think of starting with the pagan ones and working my way to the present for a safe trip. As you can no doubt surmise from the fact that I'm writing this and other posts that I survived. I'm not sure whether to thank Mithra; Krishna;Vishnu or Kwanyin or one of the other gods I appealed to in my desperation for the successful outcome - Next time I think I'll walk. As someone once said. "Everywhere is within walking distance if you've got the time"                                                                                                                                                                                      Nothing like the green, green grass of home just ask Tom Jones.    Philip.
  27. BKYTH
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    29 November 2015 in reply to Bluey moon
    G'day. Join in the chinwag if you wish. A new voice is always welcome. Philip.
  28. Mangof
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    2 December 2015 in reply to Bluey moon

    Hi Bluey Moon ,

    welcome to our space this group is great lots of topics, advice and stories feel free to jump in at anytime what things are you interested in? Do you have any animals? Favorite music or Hobbies we all would love to hear about them :)

    stay happy

    mangof

     

     

     

     

     

     

  29. Mangof
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    2 December 2015 in reply to BKYTH

    Morning Phillip,

    what an experience I had one similar when I was much younger backpacking and decided to do a plane ride around some mountain alps NEVER AGAIN! It was so terrifying I laugh now as I had a tall male gentle German tourist sitting behind me who's screams were louder than any of the females as the pilot seemed to skim across the face of the mountains and joy ride the air pockets, from behind me I got arms, legs,screaming,laughing the works lol he did apologise once we landed and like you offered to prise my fingers from the arm seat.

    would  i do it again NOT LIKELY!

    stay happy

    mangof

  30. BKYTH
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    3 December 2015 in reply to Mangof
    Surviving what you have determined to be your end is a surprise that is not altogether unpleasant. You don't tend to read of accounts of aircraft crashing where most people survived. Aircraft travel is wonderful, all the more so, if I'm not aboard.                                                                                                                                                                               I choose to be brave on my own terms which is an option not usually available to me as is the case for all of us. If I choose to go to Bourke again which I never will ( It was 100 degrees in the middle of the night) I,ll walk and will hopefully have learned from past experience to change direction by the third or fourth step and reconsider the enterprise.                                                                                                                                                                                   I have, or am in the process of, developed a plan to hijack the manly ferry myself to see something of the world where I won't be just treading once again in my own footprints.                                  Philip.

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