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Topic: Coping during the Coronavirus outbreak

  1. Sleepy21
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    but that's melbourne.... i think u guys are safe and sound mask free outdoors in regional vic? i could be wrong too!
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    10 June 2021 in reply to Moonstruck

    Hi Moonstruck

    You ask some really good questions about the benefits of vaccinations. The way I’ve heard it explained is like this.

    Full vaccination (2 shots) prevents serious illness and death 100 per cent of the time. Having one shot gives a person some protection from serious illness/death but not as much as having two shots.

    But even fully vaccinated people can catch and transmit the virus. Although the risk of transmission (and serious illness mentioned earlier) are reduced.

    So, there are still risks involved for fully vaccinated people that may prevent them from having special benefits re: travel and lockdown.

    Did you hear about the parents separated from their new born baby in Qld? Flew in from Qatar, both fully vaccinated, and start 14-day quarantine. Both test negative to Covid multiple times.

    Mum has an emergency C-section with 9 days to go in her quarantine. Neither parent is allowed to see or hold the baby for the full nine days till quarantine ends.

    Now, I can see the risk of letting a potentially infectious person into a neo-natal unit. What I don’t get is why after being fully vaccinated the risk wasn’t reduced enough to let the parents see their baby, particularly if they wore the full personal protective gear which they were willing to do.

    Either our authorities can’t get their heads around reduced risk once vaccinated or it’s not going to matter when it comes to their rules.

    I’ve heard epidemiologists say we need 70 to 80 per cent of the population vaccinated to achieve herd immunity.

    If anyone knows different please pop in. I’m just going on recent news reports.

    Kind thoughts to you

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  3. randomx
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    10 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hi sleepy , yeah probly right , l can't even be be bothered holding concentration listening to all their dribble any more.

  4. Sleepy21
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    we made it victorians u beautiful bunch :)
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  5. Elizabeth CP
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    12 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    I am feeling extremely depressed. Even though restrictions have eased I still can't visit family. It is too cold and damp to meet outside even if they were within 25km radius. The combination of the recent storms and ongoing reports combined with the covid situation has me really on edge. I'm too scared of going anywhere in case of another outbreak and being isolated for 14 days. There seems like no point in trying to do anything.

    I'm not complaining about the restrictions because I know the government are trying to manage the stuation so thing don't get worse but reminding myself that is not helping me stop feeling as if life has lost all meaning

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    12 June 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi Elizabeth CP,

    Thanks you for sharing your current standing on this cold winters day.

    I agree that the lockdown should be eased further, but in the meantime we just have to stay patient and do our best in the current situation.

    Why don't you go buy yourself something yummy to eat to help get your mind off the restrictions?

    Let us know your thoughts.

    Regards,

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  7. Elizabeth CP
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    12 June 2021 in reply to CalmCat
    My issue isn't thinking the government should ease the restrictions under the current circumstances. It is my fear of inadvertently visiting an exposure site and having to isolate. This would mean not getting the support we need as my husband is blind and has other issues. I cant use my thumb which makes many tasks difficult. I went to the shops today to buy a present for my grandson. I don't normally suffer from social anxiety but i couldn't even go into the fruit shop because there were too many people. Seeing people sitting eating in the food court and cafes filled me with horror. I couldnt go and buy a treat to take away.
  8. Sleepy21
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    12 June 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi Elizabeth

    I can relate to feeling unusually anxious when stores are extra busy and full after being closed or empty for a period of time.

    It's very unsettling.

    That's scary if ur husbands support services are closing and not open. They need to prioritise maintaingin medical support

  9. Elizabeth CP
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    13 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    My fear if of visiting somewhere and the finding out a positive case visited at the same time so we have to go into isolation regardless of the rules for everyone else. Once in isolation then noone can visit at all. I know this is unlikely. I don't want to be the one person who picks up the virus and then unwittingly spreads it to others before I know I'm infected.

    My fears are out of proportion

  10. Sleepy21
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    13 June 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    hi Elizabeth - out of proportion fears are common nowadays with fear-mongering on the news and medis

    u are not alone

    i'm not sure if ur familiar with ACT (Acceptance Commitment Therapy) but a lot of it is about accepting fears are a part of life but seeing if we can live in line with our values If it is more helpful to get out and about and in line with ur values and goals - the fear can be stepped back from etc and lived with - while still getting out. I know others who are afraid to go out for this reason.

    Are there some places u can go where u are less afraid etc?

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  11. Sleepy21
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    13 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    shopping centres are pretty scary when they are busy - so sometimes during lockdown i paid a bit more and bought eseentials from mom and pop type stores, or cafes sometimes sell. Yesterdy i was visiting someone in hospital and they had a cafe there that sold toothpaste etc - I bought it there to save myself going to the supermarket. this is pricier but for a few items helps me de stress... i also like to get a coffee from the store and take it to the park - i personally feel less stressed in parks and outdoors, but that is just my own anxiety creating its own rules for me- so i try and find ways that i can do. I relate to feeling like there's no point going outside. i felt like that 100 percent initially and didn't leave my apartment

    My Gp suggested i could get a takeaway coffee and go to the park, which i do now everyday, and it's eased me into socialising. I'm not afraid of contracting it but do have social anxiety so i'm afraid of being in busy spots and in close contact with ppl anyway. I like to keep my distance long before that was a thing.

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  12. Moonstruck
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    14 June 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Did you see Australia has only 2.6% of population vaccinated...way way behind Israel, USA, UK, Canada etc. Why is this? Interested in knowing what others' thoughts are on why we are lagging so behind?

    I am in Qld and our state is at the bottom the list in the country too. How can we get back to "normal" with such low vaccination rates? Why are we in this position?

  13. Sleepy21
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    14 June 2021 in reply to Moonstruck

    Not sure about the vaccines.

    I'm so out of touch with the news as it's so confusing and upsetting

  14. lunastone
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    hi, Elizabeth CP,

    i am sorry to hear that you feel that way. me too. I am now avoiding crowded places and haven't done any interstate travel for that reason. Wrong place, wrong time. Then, i am in 14 days isolation. It is so unsettling. As a result, we haven't been eating out as a family for over a year now. I have also become a hygiene control freak with everyone at home. It stresses me out to take my kid out and children just do what they do -- touching everything and put into their mouth. The whole covid makes me so aware of bugs and germs and have anxiety from that. I did get a bit less stress and more relax over time but hit a reset button with each lockdown. I am not sure if a therapy might help?

  15. lunastone
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    15 June 2021 in reply to Moonstruck

    hi, moonstruck,

    the abc 4corners episode on 'australia's covid vaccine rollout' explains it well. That's why i have been in the frustrated, deperessed, and sad mood all along. It triggers even more when my US friends are literally all having a new normal life now. They were house bound for a year. Countries that were/are hit hard seem to have less issue with vaccine hesistancy. Countries that were doing very well at the beginning like Australia are not doing so well now -- lack of vaccine supply and hesistancy. I honestly dont' know how we are getting out of the eradicate strategy even with the vaccine if the majority cannot accept any other number but zero. As i mentioned, it is welcoming news here in WA for opening up the vaccines for younger cohort despite it will take a long time to jab most population in perth at the current rate. That gives me a little hope.....i really hope that there is a plan to open up.

  16. Nellym
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    16 June 2021 in reply to lunastone

    I am struggling with my appointments over the phone. My psych and pdoc are not even using telehealth, just mobile phone.

    I know it won't be forever but that still doesn't help.

  17. CalmCat
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    16 June 2021 in reply to Nellym

    Hi Nellym,

    Thank you for being so open and sharing with us what's been going on in your life.

    Telehealth is to be phased out the end of December, whether to government extends it whos to know.

    But its so good that you are still having your appointments even though its on the phone, keep up the great work.

    Let us know your thoughts.

    Regards,

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  18. meforcats
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    23 June 2021 in reply to Rob778
    It's great isn't it Rob? I've also had a couple of Reiki sessions and they're very relaxing too.
  19. Moonstruck
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    24 June 2021 in reply to lunastone

    Queensland borders are closed again.

    're the latest CoVid cases in NSW...or anywhere else actually...why aren't we being told how many of those testing positive are feeling really sick.? How many are seriously ill and in hospital? How many in ICU?

    Don't we deserve to know? Why don't reporters ask this question at the press conferences?

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  20. randomx
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    25 June 2021 in reply to Moonstruck

    The whole vac thing is bloody ridiculously hopeless. Me l just put it down to typical nanny state Australia. l mean they're still crapping on about where to build quarantine places in each state l mean it must be what 15mths and they haven't even started them yet.

    Unbelievable . l think the only reason we managed to keep cases so low was their incredibly mind blowing nannyism as usual compared to the rest of the world. But it's usefulness stops there as we can see. 6mths up on their grand stands bsing on about vacs yet they can't even jab 26million.

    rx

  21. CalmCat
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    25 June 2021 in reply to randomx

    Hi randomx,

    Thanks for sharing your views on the current COVID situation in Australia.

    I too have some concerns that the new quarantine center's won't be built in time, but I'm sure the government won't waste money on it them if they won't be used in 12 months time.

    Lets hope that the current outbreak in NSW settles down, I'd hate to see the whole state locked down.

    Share your thoughts.

    Regards,

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