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Topic: Coping during the Coronavirus outbreak

  1. mmMekitty
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    17 October 2021 in reply to meforcats

    Hi Meforcats,

    I've noticed I do spend more when shopping for my food, partially because I discover products I didn't know existed, &,sometimes my curiosity gets the better of me, & I think,it's easy, click & I've done it! It's in my 'trolly'. Too easy. If I could find other things I want, I think I woul spend more on the things buying them online than I would when in a shop.

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    I have written more about myself & my avatar, which is a photo of Mekitty, the cat I had, here:
    https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/welcome-and-orientation/introducing-mmmekitty

    & more & about other pets, here:

    https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/bb-social-zone/pets---gotta-love-them-share-funny-loving-stories-about-pets-and-animals-

    Maybe you’d like to contribute some stories of your own?

    🐱Paws crossed, I made live links - I'm not confident.

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  2. randomx
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    17 October 2021 in reply to Matchy69

    Yep l think that's about it matchy. We're just nannystated into oblivion true to form as usual l think.

    Must be the only country in the world that lock down whole states for one case.

    At anyrate , haven't watched news since Thurs l think , Sunday night now, so no clue what's goin on and it's nice.

    rx

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  3. meforcats
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    18 October 2021 in reply to Added

    Hi Added

    Milly lies on me all the time. I love seeing the dogs outside. I usually stop and and ask what sort they are and their names. I saw a little French Bulldog who was under a year old. He was so cute and small. And a mini sausage dog called Olive. ☺

    I've been going out everyday for takeaway lunches and a chat to cafe bosses. I also walk around Eastland most days. That helps me. I'm a bit anxious about going back to the gym, pottery and dancing. And mixing. My bubble buddy is coming over tomorrow. I hope our numbers don't go up too much when we open up. I feel sorry for the hospital workers. They must be exhausted. Take care while you start going out. Gradually.

    I sang to Milly for you. 😸

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  4. meforcats
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    18 October 2021 in reply to mmMekitty

    mmMekitty

    I can't help buying books online. And I've bought shoes as well.

    Your stories are very entertaining. I love haikus and yours was lovely. Oh my you've had sooo many animals over the years. I'm glad that meKitty came back. So you're from USA? I've lived in Melbourne all my life except for 2 months in Papua New guinea and 2 months in Darwin. I feel deprived of animals after reading your stories. I live alone so Milly is good company and one pet at a time is enough for me. Did you say you painted? I used to go to an Art class until the middle of last year. Acrylic and watercolour. I sold one to a friend. That was exciting. Now I go to a pottery class when I'm out of lockdown.

    Have a good day today. Meow!!

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  5. meforcats
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    18 October 2021 in reply to mmMekitty
    Have I asked if you live in Melbourne?
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    18 October 2021 in reply to mmMekitty
    Your longer poem was very touching.
  7. Sleepy21
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    18 October 2021 in reply to randomx

    I hear u rx and Mark. Thanks, it was nice to hear Ur views during this wild time,

    News is lockdown in Vic is surprisingly ending, it's startling news. I'm confused myself where I'm at, what day it is, and what the rules are. This lockdown really confused me.

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  8. randomx
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    18 October 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Yeah certainly is a wild crazy time isn't it .

    l dunno what's happening with our so called opening up only started listening to a news today, for 1 minute, until the number came out. l thought ok, that's it, l don't wanna know and flicked that off button .

    My daughter said something about his 11.59 Friday night though, she wasn't sure either avoids most of it. And wth is this 11.59 rubbish anyway, why don't they just say bloody midnight for crying out loud. At any rate , the number today was enough for me , l'd say any opening will be very very minor. But they don't normally give any detail much until the day anyway bc so much can change in a few days.

    Did l hear him say in the 6ths lockdown las time so that'd mean this is the 7th, or did l get that wrong. Surely we couldn't be up to number 7 but whatever it is hope your managing everyone.

    rx

  9. mmMekitty
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    18 October 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hi Sleepy, & everyone,

    It sure has got confusing, & I have tried to keep up! I regularly check my local State's website. Once I found where the updates were, I made that page a 'favourite', so I could go there directly to (for me), see if the restrictions on mask wearing was relaxed or not yet.

    Some of the decisions about what is & isn't permitted, & where & where not have seemed inconsistent to me.

    I think, finally, I begin to feel I can relax more myself. The only COVID-19 around SE Q is in lockdown. Provided no-one from there manages to take their infection oout into the community, going lots of places, I think I can go out.

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    I discovered today, finally, on Qld Human Rights Commission's website, I DON'T have to have a medical certificate, or letter (not even the one I have), because I DON'T have to prove that I do have a legitimate reason, such as what is listed, for my not wearing a mask. Plus, staff, anyone in the shop or of the public, has no right to even ask why I claim my exemption.

    Unless I have read the information wrong, the Police may be called to help settle any argument. But even so, they cannot ask specifically why I claim my exemption. They, too, have to take my word for it. They should not even issue me with a fine. If that happens, the advice it to go to the Human Rights Commission for help. If I was to be state that I refuse to wear one, because I didn't want to, or for any other reason not falling into what the allowable exemptions, then, they can fine me. I suppose I could not stay at the premises either.

    The information for business owners is more complicated. I get the sense, though, respect for the laws against discrimination are paramount. If they can make some arrangement for me to visit their business, perhaps even out doors, or at times specifically reserved for people who cannot wear masks, (like when grocery stores had pensioners going at 7am! Well, I knew a few who went so early.)

    I guess, by the time I figure it out, it may well be over!

    One thing was clear, the shop staff cannot make a blanket ban on people who cannot wear masks. I wonder if that will be the case for people who are not vaccinated? I think so, because, in the end, it's about respecting human rights. We will have to accept a little more risk into our lives.

    But, I could be mistaken. Everyone here, you still need to get advice for you, about your own situation.

    You gotta dig though! I think that the biggest problem is finding the info we need.

    mmMekitty

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  10. mmMekitty
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    18 October 2021 in reply to meforcats

    Hi Meforcats,

    I wonder if you wouldn't mind continuing to chat on my own thread, & leave this threadfor dicussion about how we're coping with COVID-19?

    Here's the link again:

    https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/online-forums/welcome-and-orientation/introducing-mmmekitty

    I'd love to hear more about Milly, there.

    & I'm thinking you'll hear from the Clinic soon. But if you don't in Tuesday or Wednesday, I'd recommend phoning them.

    mmMekitty

  11. Deejjay
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    19 October 2021
    Wondering if others are finding COVID-19 has made it more difficult to keep up friendships either over balancing different approaches and concerns re returning to face to face contact and opening and how to balance these when needs within a friendship group differs so much that there is no common ground. Examples include some wishing to remain on zoom whilst others can't do zoom, some happy to attend a ventilated area of a restaurant vs only doing outdoor picnics which is problematic with bad weather.
  12. Deejjay
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    19 October 2021

    Wondering if anyone has found COVID has impacted friendships. The other day a friendship circle fell apart due to someone not wanting to meet face to face with another group member due to one feeling a possible COVID exposure the other felt it wasn't/no risk. We hadn't seen each other face to face during lockdown and it was the first planned face to face catch up which didn't end up happening due to this. Complicated. Both pulled out of the F2F event, one being cautious, other felt untrusted. I've viewed by the untrusted as wrong for taking a neutral approach i.e. recognise both had their points & not taking sides. I'd had feelings about most not suggesting a catch up with me when allowed outdoor gatherings to 5 people despite my saying I'd be interested in catching up if doing something.

    Talked it through with other friends who said best get out there/make other friends. Makes sense. I don't make friends easily & went through a hard time a while ago to build friendship given a lot of "I'm too busy", feeling I was doing most of the work to establish/keep the friendship going (doing all the travel, take time off work, travelling long distances to those who didn't reciprocate and don't want to fall into this again) Thus I've targeted local ongoing activities with continued contact with the same people to let it develop naturally & I feel more confident of a yes before initiating say a one on one catch up. I'm getting older so the telling myself "one has to accept will get no's/too busy, I just need to persist and it will happen it just takes time" that the time part is more critical and I may not have "time" to wait for it to "happen".

    But what really knocked me just this morning was reaching out to the one in the group mentioned in the top paragraph (who doesn't see me as the baddie) suggesting we catch up to be advised they were "too busy". I'd mentioned during conversation a couple of weeks back how hard lockdown had been for me without family and few locals to catch up with and wished people had suggested it as I was reluctant to suggest given people seem so busy. I usually don't say things like that as I don't want to appear "needy".

    I've also noticed that some have found being in isolation liberating and they have pruned their friendship circles as a result and thus not looking to admit new friendship into their lives. I really want to avoid putting effort into trying to establish friendship with those individuals.

    Really not sure what the answer is!!

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  13. Moonstruck
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    19 October 2021 in reply to Deejjay

    Hi Deejay

    Yes. It has divided friendships, families, with me at times keeping my mouth shut about my views...some opinions are poles apart. Here in Qld, at least Queen Anna has announced dates for opening borders...but strongly recommending non vaccinated be kept apart from the vaccinated.

    Then you have friends of mine who actively seem to detest those who are not yet vacced; accusing them of "doing the wrong thing" ; terrified of the big bad Delta "coming to get us" which actually are the very words used by our CHO...soon to be Qld Governor. she said "every single person in Qld will contract Covid...every single one of us"...great stuff hey?

    someone I know is double dosed....we have had zero cases in our region of Qld since Day One....and zero in Qld for ages.....she found herself with a little cough...so rushed to get "tested". I cannot, just cannot understand why. why was she frightened....she had been double vacced and had a cough...so what? If people are going to rush in to get tested even after getting double vacced.....what's the point of the vaccination then?

    I heard a phrase that resonated with me..."it is not the job of the non vaccinated to keep the vaccinated safe...that is the vaccine's job"

    P.S ......yes I am fully vacced.

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    19 October 2021 in reply to Deejjay

    Hi deejay,

    I ended a friendship with someone becausei feel that covid showed true colours, they were extremely insensitive to the mh impact of covid, and didn't seem able to be a friend or even consider or share the experience of lockdowns....she spent the first year saying how unfair it was she couldn't go see a movie.

    I rearranged my friendships, but I'm still open to new friends, although I'm more discerning, be ause I feel like I'd rather have few good than many bad friends.

    it made my friendships deeper, and more real, but I have only made one or two new friends during lockdown. I guess I'm one of the pruners, maybe.

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  15. mmMekitty
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    19 October 2021 in reply to Deejjay

    Hello DeeJJay & all,

    I didn't have the friendships I thought I had, I discovered last year. Not for the first time, either, when I thought I had made a friend only to realise they didn't feel the same. I Think the restrictions did make a difference to how we were used to making our connections, and some didn't adjust very well. I know, I couldn't adjust to Zoom, & don't want online social media friends either. I want real people in my world. I want people I can talk to in person, sometimes on the phone, sometimes via email, but last year, the people I knew simply didn't do that. It was as if the relationships we, as a group. who met monthly, simply dropped each other when we could not meet face to face in a room. I tried to hold us together, but I wasn't enough, I suppose. It was tough to realise how superficial these 'friendships' had been,

    & they said,'busy' and were concentrating on other things. Those once a month meetings took more time from the day, travelling to & from, the meeting itself, than would writing at home, sending emailing to everyone, reading their emailed work and responses. I didn't understand.

    Even around where I live, I am less likely to encounter other neighbours when I go out, & I am not going out as much myself.

    I currently have no way to meet & get to know new people, who might become friends. I rely far too much upon the few people I am in contact with, & they are, as defined by the work relationship I have with them, NOT friends. One worker, I am more friendly with, but I am mindful of that all the time. It is a worry, which I will have to sort one day. But not today.

    I expect, as more people become comfortable getting out and mixing again, socialising will become easier again.

    For those of us who find socialising difficult, the easing of restrictions won't make much difference. If we had problems socialising before COVID-19, & if we could not deal with them during the last 18 months, then those problems will still be with us after.

    Indeed, COVID-19 & restrictions, & fears & uncertainty may compound those difficulties we face. It may take us longer to move forward & out again.

    mmMekitty

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  16. Guest_342
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    19 October 2021
    Hello. I'm struggling to not feel resentful towards those who choose not to get vaccinated - and it doesn't help that our rules in Vic are very much focused on granting freedoms only to those who are vaccinated. I've seen the numbers in our hospitals and the stats on the proportion that are vaccinated and my mind automatically goes to thoughts like, those spots could be free for people needing elective surgery who are in pain or discomfort and have had to have surgeries postponed if only those individuals had got a vaccine. My frustration increased this week when my employer advised us that they are not empowered to mandate vaccines, despite the fact that we are in an office ~8 hrs a day. We fall into a bit of a gap with the vaccine mandate. I worry about being exposed to potentially unknown colleagues who are not vaccinated and then taking it back to my niece who is only 12 months old. How do I deal with these feelings?
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    19 October 2021 in reply to Guest_342

    Hello Guest_342

    I understand the frustration you are going through....My mum is 91 her main carer is my sister who wont let mum get vaccinated as 'God will protect mum and my herself from Covid'

    Ive been answering new posts on the forums since early 2016 yet this dysfunctional mentality from an anti vaxxer in the family is awful to experience

    I think there is only so much we can do at this time....

    please be kind to yourself during this difficult period

    my kind thoughts always

    Paul

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    19 October 2021 in reply to blondguy
    Thank you so much, Paul.
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  19. mmMekitty
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    20 October 2021 in reply to blondguy

    Hi Paul,

    If your Mum can understand & give her consent, & your sister does not have Power of Attorney to make medical decisions on her behalf, then your sister cannot prevent Mum from getting vaccinated.

    mmMekitty

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    20 October 2021 in reply to blondguy

    Paul,

    Fair enough, one has the right to make decisions based on their own religious beliefs, for themselves. But I don't think it is reasonable to impose one's religious based decisions upon another, even if they have Power of Attorney. I think that would be an abuse of the Power of Attorney.

    mmMekitty

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    20 October 2021 in reply to Guest_342

    Hi Guest342....no worries at all and thankyou for being a part of Beyond Blue :-)

    Hi Kitty..thankyou for your understanding......Its not really about religion..its about diagnosed mental health issues that havent been attended to or medicated....Ive been involved with counselling & mental health issues (mainly off the forums) for years. This is harder..its family

    my kind thoughts

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    20 October 2021 in reply to blondguy

    Hello everyone..

    To get vaccinated or not has been a big debate for many people...I am fully vaccinated and feel a little saferwhen I go out....My sons in-law family, all got vaccinated except their dad..they all contacted COVID, sadly their dad passed away last week from COVID yet the remaining family members are now COVID free and doing well....

    vaccinations in my eyes does help..I mean if the other family members were not vaccinated....would they have survived the COVID or not....hard to answer as COVID effects people differently.....

    I shared my story of my son’s in-law family to help those who are considering not to be vaccinated, to maybe reconsider....Life is very precious....and we need to protect our lives, our family lives, friends lives, extended family lives and even the lives of strangers....

    Paul....as Kitty said...your sister cannot prevent your mum from getting vaccinated if your mum wants to...If your sister is going out shopping, working etc...she really should reconsider vaccination...to protect herself which in turn will protect you mum....I really hope that your sister does reconsider...

    My kindest thoughts to everyone....with my care and hugs..

    Grandy..

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    Hi all, tough times for many reasons, and so sorry for Ur loss Ggrandy. A reminder how precious life can be, in Ur kind and warm way. Sending care, here for u.

    Summer coming is felt in Melbourne today, relatively warm and bright. I've never been one to be excited for summer, or for things others find happy and nice. I guess most happy to,es for others are lonely for me.

    I have some fear adjusting adjusting things opening in vic on fri. Just confusion and uncertainty.

    I don't like shopping much in crowds....as some mentioned, there has been some peace which I did appreciate.

    mmypsych asked me yesterday if there's anything I'm looking forward to opening up.....things I've wanted to do. I remember caring EM asked me similar.... I haven't got much

    Maybe getting some beauty stuff done, nails, hair, I wouldn't mind to go to a gallery, or a movie. And to see my friends in person, and have a coffee with them in a shop.

    Does anyone have any thing they are looking forward to? much love to all, Ur doing amazing

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    Hi all

    I'm happy to see people here sharing their honest feelings and opinions about things related to COVID, in a respectful way. Although I appreciate different opinions and debates it is still sad to see that people are very divisive on these issues.

    I don't have anything looking forward or any strong opinions (positive and negative) toward reopening. It is something that is bound to happen.....

    But I think this would be challenging and terrifying for some people who are immunocompromised or have severe chronic diseases.

    How's everyone doing? what are your main concerns about reopening?

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    20 October 2021 in reply to On The Road
    I texted my dtr &sil as soon as the announcement was made on Sunday allowing us to visit. We haven't seen each ither for months and I have been very worried about my grandkids due to tbeir isolation affecting their speech.. 3 of them have speech problems which have escalated over the last 2 years. I am so looking forward to seeing my grandkids. I would like to be able to go to Bunn ings as I find click and collect difficult but that won't happen for another week or so. I wont be rushing to go out to a cafe or busy shopping centre. Any shopping will be only what I need and done at quiet times and as quickly as possible. I an VERY cincerned about hospitals as the treatment my hsb needs has been put off until covis settles and the stress on hospitals diminished. Many people like him are at huge risk of deterioration due to the situation.
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    20 October 2021 in reply to blondguy

    Sorry, Paul, I must've misread something in your post.

    mmMekitty

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    20 October 2021 in reply to Ggrand

    Thank you, Grandy, for telling us of your family's loss.

    Sending you some hugs,

    mmMekitty

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    21 October 2021 in reply to meforcats

    Hi meforcats - how did you go hearing from your clinic - I am wondering if you had to get tested and isolate?

    I hope all is ok with you :))

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    21 October 2021 in reply to Added

    Hi Added

    Thanks for asking. I didn't hear from them so I'm guessing that they are all ok. I'm glad about that.

    I'm going to Qld for Christmas and have to get a covid test before going. I hope I don't have to wait for hours like some people. Take care.

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    21 October 2021 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi Elizabeth CP,

    It will be so great to see your daughter & grand kids! That's really exciting. 😺

    One big bright spot in all the mess, eh?

    For the welfare of the most vulnerable people, your hubby included, I am content with being cautious, & not rushing into anything. I'd like very much to see the hospital system under less pressure, & people getting their needed treatments as soon as possible. Sooner is always better than allowing conditions to worsen before they are attended to.

    Virtual hugs to you & yours,

    mmMekitty

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