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Topic: Night Owls (for those awake late and can't sleep)

  1. Sleepy21
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    7 July 2021 in reply to Lillylane

    hi lilyane that sounds beautiful

    i love to fall asleep in spaces i feel are sfae and private, it is very rejuvenating.

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    8 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21
    Has any one had any good results,with magnesium to aid sleep ..?
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  3. Scapegoated
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    Hi I qualify. It's 2 something in the am. I have always been awake because of fighting in my house since i was a little girl. I'm 15 and cannot get to sleep usually until 1am if it is a school night if it isn't then I can stay up until 4am. When I get my period i cannot fall asleep the few days before I get it. Anyway, Hi, Nice to meet you guys.

    Tanja.

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    15 July 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    not really quirky, to answer your q, but i didnt take it for vry long.

    has anyone had any success with any natural remedies eg varlarian root?

    nothing much works for me.

    my gp always tells me to excercise, but today i told him pretty straight

    "I do (not enough, but still, I do).... but I don't think those things work for insomnia from PTSD"

    he didn't disagree.

    Although i keep an open mind it always drove me batty when someone would suggest i could cure my years of insomnia with warm milk.

    Anyone else find that those obvious suggestions are a bit frustrating?

    I wish I could drink milk and be lulled into a beautiful slumber, but for me, thats not the kind of insomnia i have. I think that is more for ppl who are just having one or two bad nights, and need a lttle something to soothe into the sleep process.

    Yes lol I've tried hot milk before bed. It didn't wrk for me.

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    15 July 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    the magnesium wasn't too bad, seemed to help a little, but not overall in a big way. i didn't take it for very long. thanks for the suggestion quirky, it may be worth looking into.

    I'm curious also about valerian. I've trained rain sounds before bed but I didn't love them.... a little boring, but i am a fan of sleep stories and hypnosis, if anyone knows any good cds or practioners who have cds i'd be keen to know :)

    I used to listen to the free Sleep Stories on Calm.
    I guess it could be any story, u just put it on and tuen out. I liked also hypnosis cds which would walk you through a soothing scene, it was a fun break from worry anyway, and most times it led to sleep.

  6. randomx
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    15 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    l've never been morning person , and l mean l'm that dopey when l first wake up l can't even put together what someone says to me and l couldn't care less l don't wanna know anyway, just stay away from me. People don't understand it though but usually try not to bother me mostly non the less. lf they do though honestly, sometimes l feel like roaring at them to just get the hell outa my face leave me alone and l have sometimes too. l always feel so ashamed and guilty for days after if l did and l'm all oligopolies later when l wake up properly and having to explain my morning thing yet again. But if they'd just give me a bloody hr , all would be well in the world.

    At any rate , as l've said l've been training myself well over a yr now back into sleeping again but now that l do l need more and more and l'm tireder than ever. lt's crazy. A few times lately l go for siesta after work and l just wanna keep sleeping later when l do wake up , rest of the night from there. Might only be 5 in the afternoon or something though, it's crazy.

    And , on top of that l'm getting mostly a good 7, 8 even 9 hrs at night too now lately, but sometimes siesta could also end up going 2hrs on top of that too, so that's a lot of sleep. Yet l'm tireder than ever. My gf's like that but at least she has an excuse with the stress and mess she's going through atm but she sleeps at least 12 hours a day usually more , 13. 14, with few hrs in the afternoon in that too. lf she doesn't get her afternoon siesta she's just a mess the rest of the night. She's as bright as when she is awake though and full of life , at least that's something. Well when she's here at mine she is again anyway but when she's up home and with everything she's going through there nah, she's mostly depressed and stressed when she is awake , very understandably though.

    Can't work myself out though. l'm def' sleeping again though that's for sure, more than ever, yet l'm tireder than ever.

    rx

  7. quirkywords
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    15 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    sleepy thanks for your reply.

    Random I have never been a morning person even when my children were young and I had to get them ready for school.

    The other thing I tried was melatonin but it didnt help, has it helped anyone.

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  8. randomx
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    15 July 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    IT's always seemed the most foreign thing to anyone around me quirk , they just don't understand. l sometimes have to leave at 6 or about for a job though and with a work thing l can get up shower and be sort of normal in 30mins when l have to but that is no where near an everyday morng for me. Normal for me is at least an hr but preferably two.

  9. Guest9337
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    15 July 2021

    Hoot Hoot, this night owl sweeps in, lands on a branch and blinks.

    Hi everyone!

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  10. Harpbird
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337
    Hello hoot hoot lol
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  11. Sleepy21
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    16 July 2021

    hi night owls

    its too cold and depressing to sleep.

    told myself to wind down 2 hours ago

    have somehow got lost on a youtube spiral

    was meant to do a "hot drink, go to bed"

    it's 3am now and just getting to the hot drink

    living alone is weird for my habits, and the anti socialness of it, means some nights i just stay up

    anyone awake? hope ur enjoying wherever u are and staying warm

  12. Guest9337
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Evening Sleepy21!

    Yeh, I'm still awake too, tapping away at the keyboard, 168 hours a week spare.

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    16 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337
    me 2! insomnia here
  14. Guest9337
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21
    ah insomnia hey, do u have any ideas why?
  15. Harpbird
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    16 July 2021

    A lot more people up, traffic is building up, got road works too. Out front which is worse , cars stopping and starting,

    fire place been cranking all night, think I load it too much, kinda hot in here lol

  16. Guest9337
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Harpbird

    Morning Harpbird, Yes the traffic noise here is diminished by strong gusts and heavy rain. My feel remain just the cool side of comfortably warm, in heavy socked, threadbare uggboots, and a nearly brand new aussie army sleeping bag.

    Do you chop your own wood Harpbird?

    cheers, dng.

  17. Harpbird
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337

    Good morning David, in a way it’s good having road works out the front as the stop and go sign person let’s up out first lol

    my son and son in laws chop our fire wood. My mom has a big bush property so when I need wood we also get my mom stocked up.

    dropped grandson off to school and little miss is asleep, so all I mostly hear are the birds. Ahhh the quiet

  18. Guest9337
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Harpbird

    Ahh that sounds like a beautiful morning.

    The quiet gives us time to appreciate things hey.

    I like ur profile pic, yes, I too am going crazy and wanna come! Perhaps I can shrink into your suitcase along the way?

  19. Sleepy21
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337

    hi d n g

    i'm abit depressed and down, insomnia comes with it for me, shucks, it never ends...

    saw my therapist tday and wanted to talk about sleep but ended up talking mor about SI

    this is why i never bring it up, it eats up my session. but i guess life is immprtant.

    I feel bad though that i didn't get to delve into my sleep issues. next week, i guess.

  20. Harpbird
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337
    Your welcome to hide in my bag lol . I just love frog and that image is me to a T . Lol
  21. quirkywords
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    16 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Sleepy and others,

    I feel I have talked so much about lack of sleep to different specialists.
    I try to accept it asI really have never know in last 40;years at time when slept for more than 2 hrs in a stretch.Big wave to everyone who wants to be asleep.

  22. Sleepy21
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    16 July 2021 in reply to quirkywords

    hi quirky, i really needed to read that, that someone else is struggling with this and how to get help for it. Im so tired, and tired of asking for help and getting nowhere.

    I felt hopeful that my dr ws going to work on it with me but we didn't discuss it this sesson, although i wrote it down to talk about.

    I feel bummed overall.

    I'm sorry you struggle with poor sleep as well and have not found much understand from medical professionals. I relate .

  23. randomx
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    17 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Have you tried a joint sleepy , they make me sleep ? Don't smoke it anymore but it often helped me get a bit. Or do sleeping pills work ? My gf's got some mind you you wouldn't wanna become dependent on these things they'd knock out a horse , so yeah they certainly do the job. But would something mild work for you ? She only takes half of one every few wks and just that one half still has her pretty dopey and nodding off no problem for 4 or 5 nights later.

    My training's mostly worked. As l was saying l've turned into a bloody big baby these days but yeah weird how l'm tireder than ever now though. l didn't like meds but l did often have a mild joint or glass of red or both. That'd work for a few nights a wk back when l wasn't sleeping , so at least l'd get a bit from those. But both would stop working then after that one or two nights. l could at least get a few nights sleep every few wks though with those.

    rx

  24. Guest9337
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    17 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hi Sleepy21, I feel like I'm sleep 99 out of 100.

    Just got up, had 12 hours decent sleep.

    party hard.

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  25. Harpbird
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    19 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337
    12 hours sleep, wow. Last two nights I have had 6 hours , my pain meds have been changed and must have help, funny enough when I woke after 6 hours yesterday morning, I though my gosh , 6 hours , checked the bed , thought I may have wet it lol , normally don’t sleep more than 25/30 minute blocks, pain wake me and I need to change position.
  26. Guest9337
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    20 July 2021 in reply to Harpbird

    Another day comes to a close, 1158 pm.

    Sleep feels close-ish. Idk, few hours away.

    Yawn.

  27. Sleepy21
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    20 July 2021

    hi all

    i'm awake here, my brother recommended a show to me on netflix nd now i'm deep into it. Sleep seems far! how are u lovely ppl?

  28. Guest9337
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    20 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    Good morning Sleepy21.

    I'm going ok, how about u?

  29. Sleepy21
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    20 July 2021 in reply to Guest9337

    HI DnG, kinda terrible feeling about the extension of lockdowns in vic. How was ur day?

  30. Guest9337
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    20 July 2021 in reply to Sleepy21

    I've run up against yet another intractable person with too much power and not enough respect.

    So yet another day, yet another fight for survival needs against Goliath.

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