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Topic: How to take practical advantage of isolation

  1. Croix
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    23 April 2020 in reply to Shelll

    Dear Shell

    I wrote about them singing "Rawhide" on the 19th, White Rose followed on the 20th with the Row, Row, Row.

    -C

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  2. monkey_magic
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    23 April 2020 in reply to Croix
    ....they didn't get it.
    The Princess started to feel humiliated and offended. She always knew she was better off in her own company anyway Afterall she couldn't disappoint herself...

    Cont....
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  3. Shelll
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    23 April 2020 in reply to monkey_magic

    .... But then the princess thought no, she did not want to feel offended, cross or humilated. Deep down she really disliked feeling that way. Besides she was learning in therapy that you can choose to feel a different way. But she did like being by herself sometimes though. So the princess chose to let it go.

    After all singing dude (who she secretly did like, but did not want him to know) Elephant, Puppy, Snail and frying pan were her friends. They meant no harm to her.

    So with a mischievous look on her face, she started flicking some of the fresh peas right up and hitting them. She actually had a bucket of them. Flick.. Flick... Flick. Laughter was heard all over the valley. Everyone was laughing and flicking peas all other the place. Now Frying Pan.. well his job was to catch the flying missiles. And he was excellent at it. Then....

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    23 April 2020 in reply to Shelll
    ... And then Walrus using his tusks like a cricket bat hit a pea so far away it landed in...
  5. Croix
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    23 April 2020

    Dear All plus MM and Shell~

    That princess is sort of changeable in mood, sounds pretty true to life. I too am interested to find where the pea the walrus flicked ends up:)

    Hitting a pea takes a degree of manual dexterity, and for many having an occupation that combined practicing dexterity, concentration and an insight into psychology might be a good way to forget about one's surroundings for a while - plus end up with skills useful in all sorts of social situations.

    I'm talking about magic tricks, from the 'French Drop ' to the 'Floating Card.' None of them works properly to start with, and take a little practice. No real cost is involved and it can be a most absorbing pastime to get a trick quite right.

    There is an excellent how-to with the ideas behind tricks then many specific examples (with illustrated instructions)

    https://www.wikihow.com/Learn-Magic-Tricks

    Have fun

    Croix

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    23 April 2020 in reply to Croix
    I was thinking today that writing a list could be helpful. It would have 2 columns One side write down the things you are doing now that you like and want to continue post CV. For example perhaps you are enjoying spending more time a a family going for walks , playing games etc. Some people may have found a new hobby they like. Whatever it is write it on the list. Then post CV refer back & make sure you keep up the positive things rather than slipping back into old habits. The other side of the list write down the things you really miss during isolation. For me that is being able to explore new places and seeing family. The idea with this list is so post CV we can prioritise the things we now realise are really important rather than getting caught up in mundane routines. Perhaps in the future I can refer to my list when I'm clearing up after grandkids and be really grateful for seeing them. What do others think. Obviously our lists will be unique to us but will help us focus on what is really important in the future.
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    23 April 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Dear All and Elizabeth~

    These are pretty good ideas

    It is often the good things that go by unnoticed, because they are good I guess. Listing them can give focus and new ideas that will make post CV (I like that phrase:) better.

    Also writing down what you really miss will help, and maybe not put them off for mundane reasons when the chance arrives. The number of times I've not gone for my walk by the riverbank of an evening for some trivial reason is a case in point. I really miss them now.

    Croix

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    23 April 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Elizabeth,

    I am the queen of listmakers and some days my lists have their own sublists.

    I like the idea writing list as it gets me thinking. So thanks Elizabeth.

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    23 April 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hello Elizabeth

    Great ideas for the lists. It's true we get so caught up in mundane matters that we forget to enjoy ourselves and engage in rewarding activities. I have been finding out how much my hobbies mean to me and wondering why on earth I stopped doing them. I know post CV I am unable to engage in some of my previous activities being confined to home and this is what I find so relevant in your post. Do I really need or want to do some of these things. It's a good question to ask.

    The best part is that I can engage in my previous activities without feeling guilty because I am not doing those other things expected of me. Getting a lot of comfort and enjoyment by engaging in my new new/old activities. Hope I can keep focussed on them down the track.

    The other really lovely thing I am realising is how much more rested I feel. Having the ability to stop one thing and start another because that's how I feel rather than pressing on no matter how I feel. I am sleeping much better and the brain fog is lifting. Fantastic.

    Thanks for your lovely positive post.

    Mary

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    24 April 2020

    Dear All~

    I do not have any suggestions except to say that tomorrow will be Anzac Day. A very different one from past years.

    The Australian War Memorial site has full particulars of the day's activities

    https://www.awm.gov.au/commemoration/anzac-day

    Apart from other things I will be digging out photographs of a young man, a lively fellow with a sense of humor. He was my Grand-Uncle and died in France.

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    25 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    Anzac Day

    We had our own street service. A few neighbours got together, with suitable distances, and listened to the service via a neighbour's phone attached to a small speaker. We all had candles and followed the service that way. It became personal and very close, no doubt aided by our present circumstances. It was good.

    Mary

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    25 April 2020 in reply to White Rose

    Croix & Mary really shared what I was trying to say re the lists. Croix said good things that go by unnoticed. Listing them can give focus and new ideas that will make post CV better.
    Also writing down what you really miss will help, and not put them off for mundane reasons when the chance arrives. The number of times I've not gone for my walk by the riverbank of an evening for some trivial reason is a case in point. I really miss them now.

    Mary wrote I have been finding out how much my hobbies mean to me and wondering why on earth I stopped doing them. I know post CV I am unable to engage in some of my previous activities being confined to home and this is what I find so relevant in your post. Do I really need or want to do some of these things. It's a good question to ask.

    This is a time to realise what matters to us as individuals & perhaps some of the things which kept us busy pre CV are not really important so lets get rid of them and do what really matters.

    For me sleep is a real problem because as soon as I switch off the light my brain is free of the usual distractions and dwells on all the negatives worrying about my daughter in England & the others I can't see here.

    I tried rearranging 2 rooms yesterday so I could have my study in the brighter sunnier room but I can't fit the furniture in. The rooms are so small it isn't working so I have to move everything back. That will fill up time but not productively!!!

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    25 April 2020

    Dear All, Mary and Elizabeth~

    I had planned what I was going to write today but after reading your posts I changed my mind.

    You have no idea the amout of encouragement it gives me when there is understanding, as so often I simply just try, not having walked in the shoes of the person I'm talking with. Here we are talking of the same thing in the same way -and building on it.

    So thank you - particularly as it is happening on a day when coming together is already so important.

    And now ...

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    The pea shot across the river and came down in a graceful arc into the half-empty glass belonging to the old man who slept. It sank into the remains of his P-G GB and started to fizz. I guess while olives and onions are immune to its effects but peas are not. The fizz generated while bubbly foam, more and more and more, soon it was cascading in all directions until it came to the old man. It covered him competently - at which time he woke up, he swept out a couple of holes in the foam for his eyes plus one for his mouth and started upstream towards the others, looking for all the world like an abommmmminable ...

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    Croix

  14. eight
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    25 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    i mean thats the heart of a lotta roleplays/collaborative fiction and yeah im calling it an rp who knew lmao. that you gotta roll with the punches of what your partner wants and everyone's the main character or maybe i get too wrapped up in dnd story theory.

    ʟᴏᴏᴋɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ᴀʟʟ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀɴ ᴀʙᴏᴍᴍᴍᴍᴍɪɴᴀʙʟᴇ elephant's toothpaste, spurting up and everywhere. now we call it elephant's toothpaste because it spurts all out like an elephant and has the consistency of toothpaste but you're not meant to brush your teeth with it because its decomposing hydrogen peroxide reacting with potassium iodide and if youre being fancy maybe bottles of soda or actual toothpaste you're meant to brush your teeth with.

    the elephant was picking up all this foam and scrubs his flat molars with it, because even though in year 7 chemistry for humans where you get told not to touch it bc its toxic year 7 chemistry for elephants has a different risk assessment and he probably wasn't listening to that too. he was barely listening during my logic proof and picked the g door anyways which weren't they identical? it was more so i didnt get confused during my explanation because i too understand Not Getting It in math class i'm not learning disabled for nothing but w/e w/e im contradicting what i put in my first paragraph. and after the elephant's yellowed teeth were as pearly as he could get it --

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    26 April 2020 in reply to eight

    Dear Eight~

    It's nice to see you again, even if I do have to reach for the on-line dictionary of modern city speech to grasp all you have to say:)

    Yes one does have to roll with the ideas of other players, I guess that's a lot of the fun and challenge of games such as The World Ends With you or Dungeons and Dragons.

    I'll have to bow to your knowledge of elephants' year 7 chemistry, walruses don't normally get that far:) With games I'm afraid it is not the history or even the finer points of theory that interest me - oh dear now you have gone and side-tracked me from waht I going to talk about this evening.

    For those of you who do not know games, both in person and on-line, ones like dungeons and dragons are not quite what ome might expect, more a combination of Monty Python's Holy Grail meets Hogwarts all played out on a Monopoly board. It can be quite complex but for me it was the start of a pleasurable evening once a week in which I met with freinds and we talked as much as played, cheated and laughed, using the game as a framework for the simple enjoyment of each other's company.

    This is a different from games limited to one person, or those where the opportunities to talk between players are constrained by the rules. These appear as much about keeping score as anything (my grandson would argue). It has been, at least for me, the people, remote or in person, that make it work and makes me want it to keep going.

    So I'd suggest if you get the opportunity try, these is something for every taste, from gardening to haute couture, simple to complex.

    OK, off we go:

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    ... elephant's yellowed teeth were as pearly as he could get it ... which made the walrus rather jealous, his teeth (as far as anyone could see under his moustache) and tusks has a yellowish tinge.

    The princess, who secretly wanted to impress the singer -a hansom fellow richly dressed, decided that having an elephant (with pearly teeth) to ride would allow him to look up at her and see how grand and important she really was. So with a flick of her braid she climbed up and sat behind the elephant's head, tickling his ears with her feet, the elephant ...

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    Croix

  16. eight
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    26 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    thats too many culture refs to explain for me i'd say like. its Make Believe with Complicated Rules. and also very complicated dice. i was always obsessed with dice as a kid my brother would buy me some ragtag dice and id be so enraptured on how cool this die was so i was destined to be a dnd kiddie.

    i was always the designated dungeon master whenever my groups played and turns out i have way too many ideas and opinions over how a good dm should act. but all my ideas about working together to create a good story and sharing the limelight and everything comes from an extremely story-skewed perspective if yours is obsessed with action and getting The Cool Things theyd have different ideas. all i wanna do is interact and act and tell tales. my players, impoverished, lips cracking and skin sallowed, beg for me to throw a goblin at them but ignore their pleas and continue explaining the tragic life story of this npc that all started at the onset of the War For Gronder back when---

    you shouldn't play with me either because when i'm a player all i'm capable of is making halflings. i just think those hobbit people are neat. they arent good for fights or anything all i want to do is act like the annoying theatre kid i am. one of my most treasured characters i played was this plucky halfling rogue boy whos age sorta slid between 10 and 14, ran away from home and became a thief because he didn't want to be a scholar, and he stuck with the pyromaniac halfling eldritch knight and a strict high elf wizard who became their Elf Mum. two years ago for the birthday of Elf Mum's player i got her a custom mug that read "#1 ELF MUM" and apparently she drinks all her tea with that mug. the downside to having such a strong clique between those guys in the party means that now we drifted away it becomes really hard to develop your characters without his arsonist big sis and his Elf Mum.

    i dont particularly feel like writing about the princess right now and i only have 500 or so characters. ill prolly leave it here aye

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    27 April 2020 in reply to eight

    Hello Eight

    Good to meet you. I see you have been posting on the forum for some time.

    Can I ask a favour? Croix was being tactful in saying he needed to look up some of your expressions. The reality is I think I understood about three quarters of your post. Can you write out the full name/title/action of whatever you are talking about at least once in the post? Yes I am one of the oldies and do not come into contact with this modern way of speaking. Do I sound like your granny? Well I am a grandma. My grandchildren are very good at making sure I understand what they say.

    Is there something in particular you would like to talk about other than playing games? It's OK to talk about games though you may want to take this part of your conversation to the BB Social Zone where you may talk to others with the same interests. However staying here is good. I would enjoy talking with you.

    -------------

    The elephant rather resented people climbing all over him without asking first and being tickled by the princess' dirty feet made him quite cross. He asked her, quite politely for an elephant, to stop tickling but the princess was used to getting her own way and would not stop.

    Suddenly the elephant saw his girl friend and was embarrassed at being tickled by the princess. He would much rather the girl friend tickled him. He gave the princess one last warning to stop before he curled his trunk around her and lifted her into the air. The elephant's GF saw him and called him over, so forgetting he was still holding the princess he ran over to join the GF whose name was Gertie. The princess became quite seasick being waved backwards and forwards through the air and begged the elephant to put her down. He remembered he was holding her so just dropped her and ran off to Gertie. The princess.......

    Mary

  18. eight
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    27 April 2020 in reply to White Rose
    sorry im too much
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    ....felt rather disheveled, dizzy and winded from being dropped by the elephant but it wasn't long before she got up, dusted herself off and started walking away from the elephants as what happened shook her up a little.
    She shook off the dust from her beautiful gown and headed.....
  20. Shelll
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    27 April 2020 in reply to eight

    Hey eight

    I have heard of the name of the game dungeons and dragons. I think it would creep me out. So I properly would not like it. Do you play online or is it a board type game?

    I have been playing a few games. Properly a good thing to do with families stuck at home. Like the old fashioned games. And maybe online games with multiple players.

    I have played pictonary (the game where you are given a card and then attempt to draw what word is written on it.) Heaps fun.

    Then scattergories... that word game, boggle another word game. Trival pursuit which did have challenging questions.

    Yahtzee (a number game) which I play on my phone. Uno and other card games.

    Monopoly... I was never good at that either. Especially if you playing against very competitive people.

    Chess..... A very old game. I have played it. But basically I only know how to set up the board and how the pieces move. The person playing against me would be so bored. 😊

    Pick up sticks..... Another old game. I like holding a hand fall of coloured sticks all tall and straight. Properly about 20 cm long each stick. Then let them go. Boom... They then scatter with some just falling in a pile. Then you carefully have to collect sticks without moving any other.

    Jenga.... That game where you have a tower with rectangular blocks and attempt to remove a block one by one. But you have to not make the tower fall. Sometimes it wobbles though. Heaps cool that one.

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    27 April 2020 in reply to Croix

    Hello Croix

    I just wanted to respond to this. What you wrote a few posts back.

    "That princess is sort of changeable in mood, sounds pretty true to life. I too am interested to find where the pea the walrus flicked ends up:)"

    The post that I wrote in the story about the Princess deciding to choose to change how she felt. From being offended etc. To not being that way.

    Well it was actually sort of me in a way. At the time I was writing that, I was feeling offended and hurt about something happening in my real life right then and there. I was indeed feeling offended, then hurt. I personally hate those emotions in me.

    Anyway I have been learning that I can choose how I feel. I can react (which is what I was doing by allowing myself to be offended and hurt) And the princess in the story was doing that. Or I can choose to respond. Like just forgive the person and move on.

    So anyway I guess the princess in our story was reflecting me at the time.

    Actually just by writing that part in the story helped me to simply move on past the hurt . Prompting me on what I could do in real life.

    Shell

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  22. Shelll
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    27 April 2020 in reply to monkey_magic
    .... to the cool stream to wash her soiled feet....
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    Hi Shelll and all

    I just wanted to say that while I have been a little quiet on here I have been reading and what you wrote today really shines a light on the magic of this forum, that sometimes we discover things about ourselves in the journey of helping others, how truly wonderful, it made my heart so happy for you that you did have a realization, that you did some growing and some healing from your very own words and thoughts, brilliant.

    Just wanted to stop in and say how happy I was for you, I will give the princess some time shortly, for now..home time.

    Have a great evening all

    Sarah xx

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  24. eight
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    27 April 2020 in reply to Shelll
    i know dnd ever since its first edition in the 70s was meant to be played tabletop - but since its like, god i forget how to explain this, theres no preset story and its usually made up by the dungeon master there's no set board. usually if the campaign does use maps its drawn by the dm themself or i know there's programs out there to generate maps, they're grids and i know the scale can be different but you usually make each grid 5 feet/1.5m. (i taught myself imperial measurements when i was 11 to read the 5e player's handbook lmao) n to track where people are you'd use like. counters or coins or figurines that you can buy and paint. not that your filthy designated dungeon master ever uses that i only ever use the maps in pre-written adventures i use because my original campaigns be awful i always played theatre of the mind. there is a growing audience for online dnd campaigns even before self isolation using stuff like discord (private text/voice chat client) or roll20 (a site that provides lots of tools to simulate a virtual tabletop) but being honest with you even if i've done online campaigns before i've never finished a single one online. only pen and paper tabletop ones
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  25. Croix
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    27 April 2020 in reply to eight

    Dear Eught~

    Your last post was a model of clarity ( well for you it was, as normally your brain wizzes along to fast for mere mortals to keep up with :) so thanks.

    I'm sure now peple have an idea abut D&D. Like Shell pointed out there are lots of games, some board, some on computer. I think the idea I'd like to draw out of all of them is that they can have a twofold benefit . The first and most obvious being interaction wiht other people, something most humans need - a lot. A game, particularly at the moment on the internet, can bring in people you would normally never see, and can lead to friendships well beyond this period of confinement.

    The other is as a means of defusing anger and upset. When all cooped up together over a lenghty period even the most placid person can become irate. This can have an almost 'feedback' effect there two or more escalate their row.

    Turning to a game just as feelings are first starting can smooth matters over and distract. Give a chance for good humor to return and others join in.

    I don't think I'd mind being knee-deep in haflings of various sorts, they are the heroes of Lord of the Rings plus The Hobbit of course.

    Croix

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    27 April 2020 in reply to White Rose

    Dear Mary~

    Thanks for advancing the game in a new direction, you must be a romantic at heart, I'd never have thought of the elephant (now with pearly teeth) having a a GF.

    Croix

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    27 April 2020 in reply to monkey_magic

    Dear MM~

    Your episode rather reminded me of you, after dumped down in the dirt by a more powerful force getting up , dusting yourself off and going on

    Croix

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    27 April 2020 in reply to Shelll

    Dear Shell (with a wave to Aaronsis)~

    Ta for the list of games, and for your exhibition of wisdom, maybe there is something to this writing lark after all:)

    I also appreciate your ensuring the princess has clean feet, quite necessary in Royalty.

    ============================

    So finally I can talk abut what I intended a couple of days ago. I'm sure you all know that most electrical appliances have some sort of rating, saying how much electricity they consume. While stuck in the house maybe an energy audit might be a good idea. It will let you know waht is the most expensive appliance and which the least.

    I do not suggest you handle the objects, I'm sure their ratings will be somewhere on the web, if not when restrictions start to be relaxed get profession advice and maybe even a household safety check.

    And now:

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    The old man, having been covered in cleansing foam and dunked in the water presented quite a different aspect. His clothes, though travel stained were of hte finest qualities and his features noble -and somewhat younger than all had supposed. This rather set the singer aback, he had assumed he was the main male attraction around.

    The princess beamed and asked ...

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    Croix

  29. monkey_magic
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    27 April 2020 in reply to Croix
    Dear Croix,

    Oh yeah I hadn't thought of that when I wrote it but it is true to an extent. Thanks for letting me know :-)
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    Dear All

    We had been talking abut on-line games and I though I'd give you a link that lets you know some of the different types there are

    https://www.wikihow.com/Roleplay

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    However today it might be good time to think about future activities. Many people have a "Bucket List", with all sorts of sometimes quite exotic or expensive things in it from walking the Kokoda Trail (all 96 klm of it:) to visiting the Louvre in Paris and seeing the Mona Lisa first hand.

    Perhaps a less ambitious idea might be to make a list of the most valued 100 movies that have been regarded as "the" classics. There are may such lists already, and often they depend upon taste, or time-span.

    The American Film Institute has such a list and it is not a bad starting place:

    https://www.afi.com/afis-100-years-100-movies/

    Not surprisingly they are all American, however if you combine the best of these with other lists you can come up wiht a very interesting mix that spans time, culture and genre.

    Some might be hard to find, some may just be a cheap secondhand DVD on eBay. In fact finding and viewing them may take considerably longer than you anticipate, far longer than our current crisis, but can (or at least did for me) result in greater understanding and wider vision. A richer view of the world.

    I've more understanding of young peple growing up in Japan in a mix of older restrictive cultures and new more liberal ones, the horrors of WW1 in France and the origin of "Play it, Sam" in Morocco

    Croix

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