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Topic: Anyone else hate this country due to authoritarianism and anti-intellectual culture?

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  1. Isaac98
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    24 October 2020
    I know this is a weird question on a mental health organisation, but I have nowhere to turn since I'm pretty lonely due to my cultural differences. I can't even trust almost any Australian person, I only have American friends aside from one neighbour in real life and I always feel so bitter without much of an outlet.
  2. white knight
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    24 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98
    Hi, welcome

    It is a weird question and imo not really appropriate. Having said that it could also be seen as provocative.

    See, I love this country, every little bit. In terms of authoritarian, well we can only compare it to other countries and we are more free than most if not all.

    As for politics my solution is to let them do their thing and get on with life.

    Anti intellect?, a leading statement perhaps because for a nation of only 25 million our inventions are extraordinary- aircraft black boxes, medical remedies that leave other countries in its wake and many more.

    If you feel ostracized due to cultural differences then I'd say you've met the wrong people. I'm 5th generation, maybe 6th and our diversity is embraced by me and my friends. I suggest you try multiple clubs, sports, hobbies because most Aussies, (of which you are one) don't care what country of origin you are.

    Having a positive attitude is the key
    TonyWK
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  3. Isaac98
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    24 October 2020 in reply to white knight
    How it is it provocative? I'm looking for any Australians who understand my problem, not trying to raise conflict. We have a lot of tall-poppy syndrome in conjunction with hatred of all American people in a simplistic manner when they have many complex cultures, and that our economy sucks for business so a lot of Australian inventors and such move to America since it has a much better economy for it. I can list those things on and on but I don't need to. With being ostracised, I am ostracised because I cannot get into my guns passion due to the law along with the Coronavirus measures destroying people's mental health including mine when the lockdown was in place!
  4. Isaac98
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    24 October 2020 in reply to white knight
    Actually.. I forgot to mention that why should I let our society do our own thing when they don't do the same for me? Seriously? I'm not being bossed around at all.
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    24 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98

    Hi Isaac98

    coronavirus is a particularly challenging thing, and we are all being affected by it. Not only in this country, but globally. It is unfortunate that it has led to what we ate all currently feeling. There are a lot of resources for coping with corona virus.

    as for strict gun laws, there is a very good (well very bad in fact) reason that we observe that. Im a farmer so might need a firearm, but also have a mental illness which thankfully prohibits me from getting a license. Im ok with that. Like it or not, it is what it is. In my opinion people and guns dont mix.

    The politics in this country is a bit silly at times, has been since 1901, but having compulsory voting allows everyone a say. Like TonyWK said, let them do their thing and get on with living. TonyWK also offers a good insight, perhaps you are meeting to wrong people who make you feel ostracised.

    I value your opinion on the subjects though.

    Not_Batman

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  6. Isaac98
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    24 October 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    Although our gun control hasn't done anything to violent crime rates and that we can be safe from the virus without oppressing people, its okay you think different. You seem to at least somewhat care which I can appreciate. With resources for mental health and Coronavirus, all that would help for me is getting away from this country whenever I can since it'd only help if I was conformist which I'm not.
  7. white knight
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    24 October 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    So let's tackle your mental illness issues and/or social issues which is relevant to this site.

    You said you're lonely, what organisations have you tried to integrate into? Do you have hobbies, sports etc. Are you inner city regional or rural? What country has your family originate? We do have a multicultural representative here also that can help.

    I ask that we all steer clear if the subject of firearms on this site for obvious reasons.

    Hope to hear from you.

    TonyWK

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  8. Isaac98
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    24 October 2020 in reply to white knight
    Sorry, but I'll talk about this tomorrow or something since I'm rather tired and not feeling too well. I guess you may be actually trying to help me White Knight, although I feel quite skeptical of you still due to being positively biased for this country but I realise you're not much of a threat likely but goodnight.
  9. eight
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    24 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98
    isn't the government pretty bent rn on their uni cuts and price hikes. all i see now is a new wave of faculty at these universities getting laid off in anticipation of the policies. no tertiary education anymore its just job factories if you're not rich enough to do humanities. its very convincing to me this is good when i watch cops slam uni students who aren't happy about the bills half those pigs' weights to the concrete theres a big anti-intellectualism issue but when our government seems fixated on keeping True Aussie Blue, wonder whats left over lol
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    25 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98

    Isaac

    I am glad you are free to write your opinions and I respect your right to them.

    I like hearing different views.
    I hope you are feeling a bit better today.
    I have friends who I am culturally different from but we respect each other’s differences.

    I am sorry you feel lonely and ostracised.

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  11. GalahBird
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    26 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98
    I felt this way when I was much younger too, although my views tended more to the left side of politics at the time (now I find my views are issue by issue rather than left or right). Anyway, feeling despondent about your country is something that idealistic and motivated people can feel when politics seems like a dirty and corrupt game in which people aren't placed first. But don't give up on your fellow Australians. There are great people out there, kind people, who even if they don't agree with you, will still treat you with respect and help you when you are down. And there are even good politicians, people who are trying to stop the rot. It's frustrating when we read things like "Taxpayers spent $30m on land worth only $3m for Western Sydney Airport's second runway," but back when I felt upset about my country it was because Pauline Hanson was giving innocent people a hard time, just for being culturally different. There are always things happening that disappoint us, but that's because we are idealists. Anyway, most Aussies are good people, regardless of what they believe, so take heart.
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  12. Imogen2
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    26 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98
    Isaac98 Hi. I am an Australian, my great great grandparents came from Ireland and the UK but I have olive coloured skin and in the 1960’s in primary school in Sydney I was called a wog by some of the boys in my class but the friends that I had whom were very kind to me came from Greece and Egypt. I did have only a few Australian friends but I felt welcomed by my foreign friends they too were bullied. I was a young girl at the time and it was only the boys that called me a wog. They didn’t realise my blonde haired brother was in two grades above me. I still get asked if I am an Australian!!! I have wondered now looking back on my 60 years if I was judged by my colour. I probably was but didn’t notice later in life.
  13. Imogen2
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    26 October 2020 in reply to Isaac98

    Are you involved in a group with your own culture here in Australia? You mentioned America, we don’t seem to have many Americans lots of Canadians here though but you should keep your culture alive, here. Australians do appreciate culture, it would be a sad world if we didn’t have culture; it’s interesting, the food, dance, sports etc.

    Technology is controlling us more now than our governments or politicians example Google, except for COVID-19 we need to stay aware. People are allowing technology to run their homes! Once you are logged into the internet it will follow you and send you what they think you need. So I see that as more dangerous than our politicians who are only doing the job to fill their own pockets.

    It is good to be different - be unique.

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  14. Imogen2
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    26 October 2020 in reply to eight
    It’s upsetting to know the Howard’s and Abbots when they went to University, it was Free. Prime Minister Howard raised the price for students to attend University and so it was too expensive sad if you had the intellect to be a doctor but no money. And so Howard announced he was inviting doctors to come from overseas to work in our public hospitals as Australia does not have enough doctors (I wonder why). If it wasn’t for my daughter winning a scholarship she would never had got into university (or) it would have been delayed but thank god she graduated 2019 before covid. I feel for any University students now. Our older politicians and those retired and passed, had free University
  15. white knight
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    26 October 2020 in reply to Imogen2
    Hi Isaac

    I hope you are feeling better.

    Perhaps you'd like to expand on your illness and emotional or mental struggles.
    TonyWK
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  16. Isaac98
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    7 November 2020 in reply to Imogen2
    Sorry no, I hate our culture and I don't want anything to do with it because of such different values. its fine if you love it, but I'm not being an ally of our people to preserve your culture since I wish it never existed.
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    7 November 2020 in reply to Isaac98

    Hi isaac98.

    is there anything specific you may share with us which you find backwards about the culture, and how it affects you. for example the geographic location, restrictions, etc.

    Not_Batman

  18. Isaac98
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    8 November 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    So much authoritarianism for a western country (especially compromising SO MUCH freedom for safety); gun owners being oppressed for "safety" when violent crime hasn't decreased faster since 1996, typical anti-intellectualism, our economy being pretty incompetent, and none of our people fighting the system but blindly complying with it regardless of how they feel. Our people tend to pathetically only care about their own jobs and families instead of the system itself, at least from what I've seen..
  19. Isaac98
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    8 November 2020 in reply to white knight
    Sorry, I forgot to answer questions you had for me about my situation. I needed to take some time off since I was rather pretty stressed at the time.

    However, an organisation I once tried to integrate into was the Liberal Democrat party which is an Australian libertarian-right party. Although it follows similar principles to mine, they still rather have pretty compromising people who don't fight enough for what they believe in (to me at least) and that most members near me didn't have time for friendship which I needed and still need. I went to a couple of their meetings, they only had 6-8 people who regularly attended meetings for the WHOLE city I live in when it has more than 300,000 people and only one person there wanted to be friends with me regularly. Though, I unfortunately couldn't connect with her well enough for that since she was much older than me in conjunction with being attracted to macho men which led her to once being abused at the time so I didn't want anything to do with that. I felt quite bad for her, but I wouldn't be able to help since she's submissive to those types of guys which is a habit only her can break.

    With regards to hobbies, I don't have many nor much which I really care about enough due to being pretty narrow-minded and that I don't want to replace my passion in guns and philosophy at all. Though; I like to play guitar, video games (more like an outlet for the guns passion and socialising with my kind), doing gardening with a neighbour, and I dislike sports except for certain shooting ones which don't attract fudds (fudds are gun owners who support more gun control).

    Speaking of where I live, I'm not saying where exactly but I live in NSW along the coast in a moderately sized city within a suburban area. Sorry I forgot to mention where me and my family are from, but we're born in Australia and I have English and German family routes.
  20. Isaac98
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    8 November 2020
    However Eight; I admittedly think everything should be private (not state "private" like US healthcare), but I get why you'd think that way about the liberal party since they believe in a socially corporate sort of oligarchy (neoliberalism) which also damages the economy and leads to higher costs upon privatisation in their view. True with the anti-intellectualism and police though lol, our nationalism doesn't also help.
  21. TheBigBlue
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    8 November 2020

    The short answer to your question (thread title):

    No.

    I absolutely love this country. I was born here but have mixed Eastern European heritage. My dad & his family all came from Europe.
    My aunt married an Italian, my sister a Greek, my other sister an Englishman & I’m dating a Sri Lankan.

    I love when we all get together because it’s such an eclectic mix of people but we are ALL accepted as family. We eat each other’s dishes, our parents all had similar immigration stories & challenges growing up here.

    But to me, having such a mixed background is what makes us all uniquely Australian.

    Did you grow up in Australia or overseas? I’m just wondering if moving here & experiencing different laws (such as our gun laws) was a bit of a hard reality if you hadn’t grown up here? Side note, I think you can get a gun licence or join a club but I have no idea what the regulations are for that.

    I hope things can improve & you can expand your circle of friends to include people who you can find trustful. From my experience Aussies love BBQ’s, sports, beer & beaches. Getting involved in any of the above in any form may help.

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