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Topic: DEPRESSION: Fight it or embrace it?

  1. Ggrand
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    18 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools, and 🙋 To everyone.

    It sounds like the outing even though at first started off a bit slow, with the phone etc. but in the end he said that he really enjoyed the day and your company..

    looking at older homes, old farm cottages with the country gardens, are always a pleasure for me as these homes have character and charm..the newer homes, I don't know, just doesn't reflect the happiness the way the older homes do..

    I'll take the erase button any time..how good would that be, I thought about how can we dump our negative thoughts permanently, maybe hypnosis, This is something I may look into...I haven't heard or really thought about until today but I wonder if it could work for clearing trauma from our minds..

    Dools, I love the virtual hugs, their the only ones I get, I have no one here that I am close enough to, also the thought of anyone giving me a hug is to frightening, yet I need a r/l hug.. from one of my sons would be nice but I haven't seen them since last year..BB is my only social outlet. My lifeline I suppose you could say..

    Thank you Dools for your lovely post, they are always very interesting and feel good to read.

    Kind thoughts

    Karen,,,(Grandy)..

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    18 March 2018 in reply to Ggrand

    Hi Karen and All,

    Sending you more virtual hugs, encouragement and a sentiment of kindness to you dear lady.

    Something in your post reminded me of a "Visualisation" process I was taken through once. The instructor was talking about visualising your negative thoughts going down a river and out of view.

    My mind decided this was a great idea. Next thing in my mind, there were giant black ants on huge gum leaves sailing down the river holding up placards with all my negative thoughts on them!

    The ants were even smiling! They were taking my burdens and hassles from me. I need to recall this and try this more often!

    My Gratitude Journal has been well and truly used today! My first thought was a negative! "I woke up again this morning in physical pain" so I decided to find points I could be thankful for around the negative. I woke up so that means I had some sleep. I have a comfortable bed in a lovely home. I am safe here. I can get out of bed by myself and so on.

    Then I listed other things I am thankful for already today and have been for the last week or so. Once I started to count my blessings, more things came to mind.

    This is just what the psychs are trying to get into my thick head! The more positives I can think of the less room there is for the negatives and slowly my mind will turn more to the positive than the negative.

    There will be days when I will still just have to float for a while or tread water until I find some way to push forward again. I just need to remind myself where the life ring and floaties are!

    Talking about hugs, ever thought of volunteering in a home for the elderly? You could probably have heaps of hugs there if you felt comfortable with the idea.

    Are you a dog lover? is there a dog shelter near you? Animals can give you a lot of love. Strangely enough I would like a pet dog, I just dislike it when the neighbour's dogs bark for hours!

    Back to hugging, one of my nephew hugs to tightly, he almost breaks my ribs and I am sure my eyeballs are about to pop out! Ha. Ha.

    Cheers All from Dools

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    19 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools,

    Thank you for your post, you made me laugh, your story with the giant smiling ants 🐜 on huge gum leaves really is a classic, Dools you are a fresh of breath air.

    Dools I like the idea of a gratitude journal. My first entry would be that I have big windows in my bedroom, which faces the paddock, the hills in the far distance meets the horizon, and this is where if I wake up early enough I can lay or sit in bed and watch the birth of a new day.. it's really inspiring..

    the idea with volunteering is a good one, but i don't feel safe outside or around people, hoping I can heal this part of me quickly,

    I have two of the most gorgeous little doggies, I have mum 4yrs, daughter 2yrs old. They are so sweet and loving, When I cry they come over to me and lay their heads on my lap, They are my fur buddies..I love them lots..

    Dools I hope one day that you can get a pet dog,nbecause they really do become a part of your heart..

    Thankyou for your virtual hugs, lol I've taken two lots of you today, I have kept a couple for later on..

    what a super special hug your nephew give you, his love for you is shown in his hug..beautiful Dools,

    I hope everyone's day is lighter then yesterday.

    Care xx

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    19 March 2018

    Hello Dools and everyone

    Yeah, positives are so good. When I worked, all I did was find the 'positives' to all situations. Would you believe, some people couldn't stand that. Didn't matter to me - 'positives' is my 'first' name. It's been a little different since I stopped work and gone into a downer. I seem to often focus on the 'negative', but really try to bring myself up and see the good.

    Anyway, add an excellent week away. Loved it.

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    20 March 2018 in reply to PamelaR

    Hi Karen, PamelaR and Everyone,

    Yesterday wasn't such a good day. I'm going to try and make sure I don't follow that same path today.

    I will be catching up with a girlfriend for lunch in a town an hour's drive away so that will be lovely. I will try to take note of the scenery as I am driving along.

    As it is another lovely cool day we may go for a walk after lunch which will be nice.

    Positive thinking is not easy to do sometimes! Struggling with that again right now!

    I will make some plans for the morning before I head off. If I achieve a couple of little jobs that will be encouraging, then maybe I will write in my Gratitude Journal.

    Need to give myself a pep talk! Tired of being on this roller-coaster ride of emotions!

    Cheers from Dools

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    20 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi mrs Dools

    My daughter has improved. It was terrible that for 3 months everytime we rang her she was crying. Ptsd and major depression. No more teaching for her. But a change in meds seems to have worked. Got my girl back.

    She is also an artist and is taking a keen interest in computer game art. Very animated stuff. So hoping a change of ditection will stimulate her. She has a great hubby.

    Re: positivity. I've studied it since 1982. As you try and motivate yourself it sometimes wont work. In those times best to wait for the best feeling of readiness.

    Topic: depression the timing of motivation- beyondblue

    By all accounts you are progressing. Soaking up lifes wonders. My outlet is my vintage car. If I'm down it picks me up just going for a drive. I wonder...if a parachutist had depression and had a down day if he went for a jump if that adrenalin would make a difference?

    Tony wk

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    20 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools (wave to White Knight - good to hear your daughter has improved)

    How was lunch today? Did you end up going for a walk with your friend?

    Did you note anything special about the scenery as you were driving along?

    Rollercoast rides are the pits aren't they. Make you feel yukky. I get tired of it.

    Kindness and caring thoughts to you Mrs Dool.

    PamelaR

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    20 March 2018 in reply to PamelaR

    HI PamelaR,

    The time with my girlfriend went very well. Like I mentioned to Tony we had a really good catch up. Recently she has been suffering from depression, so we are able to chat openly about mental health issues and what might help both of us.

    It was beautiful weather so we had take away food in a park. I was amazed at how green the lawns were! We just don't have anything green like that in our neighbourhood. It made me feel cheerful and happy to see all of that calming and welcoming green colour.

    I was very tired when I arrived home. My husband was very depressed. I offered to help with the vegetables for dinner...only I forgot to put water in the steamer! We ended up with charcoal potatoes and burnt smelling steamed vegetables!.

    In the end we had meat and nuked frozen peas! At least we had something to eat!

    On the way home I did notice some of the scenery, had to be attentive on the roads though as some of my fellow road users were a little erratic. I do prefer it when my husband drives so I can just look out the windows!

    Hope you are doing okay PamelaR Cheers.

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    20 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi Dools.

    Thanks for your update. I'm pleased to hear lunch with your friend went well, especially that you're able to talk freely about depression. So important, every little bit helps.

    Funny you should mention the green lawns. I've been processing my photos from camping last week. There are so many 'green photos'. Gorgeous I think. I can totally relate to how it makes you feel cheerful and happy!!

    Having meat and peas is good. Don't you get annoyed with yourself when you forget to put water in the pot. I've done that so many times over the years. The hard part is 'cleaning' the black...... Think I've thrown out a pot or two over the years. But it happens and there is no need to beat ourselves up hey?

    I'm not sure how much longer I want to drive. I find my mind wondering so much. But my hubby is always there to go rigid when he thinks I need to focus. It helps.

    How am I. I'd love to tell you what happened last Thursday night. We were camping with friends who we meet awhile ago. The camping week was about bartering a tent for some camera lenses. Although we knew we all got on well together. So by Thursday night, I said - hasn't the week been good. How about doing this again. The response from the male was - Ohh, you know about familiarity. And I said - yes, it breeds contempt. The woman's response was - We have a lot of commitments (kayaking, bushwalking etc, etc). I said, it was my thoughts once every 3-4 months. Anyway, I got up and left the dinner table. Since then I've been angsting significantly. I felt we were slighted and not really valued as friends. I have just found out that that no one heard my response. And that was not the intent of the comment. Ugh. I always make friendships so hard, I expect so much. That's my rant for the evening Dools :)

    Lots of hugs to you.

    PamelaR

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    21 March 2018 in reply to PamelaR

    Hi PamelaR and All,

    Friendships and relationships can be interesting at times a can't they! Sorry for the way you feel after the time with friends out camping. Are you going to contact them at all or just let it hang and see what happens?

    My friend I caught up with is not always good about acknowledging when I invite her to join me. It takes a week of text messages and emails back and forth, well usually me sending and her not responding. I realise with my friend she is not openly forward and it takes her a while to get back to me.

    When we do catch up we have a lovely time, laugh, chat and even pray together.

    She mentioned she is having trouble at a social group as no one says hello to her. I asked what would happen if she actually went forward and said hello to someone? It was as though that thought had not occurred to her, that she could approach someone and say HI.

    Maybe you could organise another camping trip, ask these people if they would like to join you, if they say no, then accept that and have a wonderful time with your family while out camping. Being snubbed is not easy. It does hurt.

    Some people don't like to commit. Others of us like to feel like we are in control, not controlled by others. We are all so very different, it is amazing we don't go whacking each other all the time! Good thing we have lovely qualities about us as well.

    I'd love to go camping with you and your family! Maybe we can have a camping week on DBs new Weetbix Willows thread! Maybe not during Jungle Week though in-case there are some wild animals running about the place.

    Lovely chatting with you Pamela. Cheers from Dools

    Oh yes, I put boiling water in the black saucepan and thankfully a couple of hours later it cleaned up okay!

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    21 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools and everyone

    Ahh, yes, I already have had contact with our friends. All is good. It's all in my head, my mind and my body. But it is slowly dissipating as I talk about it with my hubby and having talked about it with our camping friends.

    Wow, I would love to go camping with you too Dools. It would be so nice. We had loads of wallabies coming trying to get food from us, as did the magpies, currawongs, superb fairy wrens, crows. Out rubbish bags were raided overnight. LOL.

    Really understand what you mean about friendships. Especially those who you have to put in so much time to get them to do anything, without their input. I find that difficult and generally have let friendships go where people don't make an effort. But that is inherent in my MH issues. Having read some things on the forum lately I realise, I do have c-PTSD and that my psychologist is treating me for that, though has 'not labelled me'.

    Have you tried boiling vinegar in blackened pots? It works a treat, with little cleaning effort :)

    I do really like talking with you too Dools. As I've said previously, I love your humour. I LOL so much.

    Cheers

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    22 March 2018 in reply to PamelaR

    Hi PamelaR and All,

    Lovely chatting with yo as well.

    Thanks for sharing more about your camping trip. Good thing you were able to sort things out with your friends.

    Not feeling so chipper at present. Need to go and look for Positivity, Motivation and Humour. They have all done a runner!

    Cheers from Dools

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    22 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Oh Dools! (Hi Pammy and all)

    Even when you're feeling down, you still bring a smile to our faces, i imagined Positivity, Motivation and Humour as these little characters running away down the street looking over their shoulders while you chase them.

    You are a beautiful breath of fresh air wherever you go on these forums!

    You're awesome.

    Wishing for you to catch up with those little blighters and that you have a better day.

    🌻birdy

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    22 March 2018 in reply to Birdy77

    Hello Dools,

    I hope you can find your positivity, motivation and humour today and your day is better then yesterday,

    After I read about your vegetable it reminded me of a time I was boiling eggs, oh I put the water in but forgot about them, by the time I remembered the water had boiled out and I had two very dried out eggs with two very dark black marks on my saucepan, lol I scrubbed the saucepan on and off for days, it's still got some little black marks on it.

    When I drive into town once a week it's hard not to look at the scenery as the road to town is done on top of hills/mountains, and looking to the side there are valise, hills, trees, if I'm lucky I will also see a kangaroo grazing, although a kangaroo did decide he wanted to try and cross the road right in front of me, then stop right in the middle of the road to have a good look at me..They are big creatures when standing in front of my small car..

    Thank you Dools for such interesting posts, I really do hope your feeling a bit better.

    Kind thoughts,

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    22 March 2018 in reply to Ggrand

    Hi Birdy, PamelaR, Karen and All reading,

    Today I was in the Op Shop. The ladies there are wonderful. We all had a whinge early, I think I started it actually as I recalled my disappointing appointment at the Dr. yesterday trying to organise a form for an x-ray or CT scan of my neck. The Dr. just was not going to help me.

    Anyway, we all had a grump, listening to each others woes then later on we all had a good laugh so that helped us feel better.

    During the day I felt like crying most of the time, so kept myself busy.

    Now I am waiting for my employment lady to call me, I was expecting her call an hour ago! I am sure I would not get away with being an hour late if I had an appointment to see or call her.

    Tomorrow I am seeing the physio, so I will ask if she may be able to encourage a Dr to fill in a form for a CT scan or an x-ray of my neck.

    The Dr kept asking me why I wanted my neck x-rayed. I was going to tell her it was because I had a sore big toe, or I didn't have anything to do next week so thought that it might be a nice outing having an x-ray done, or that I fancied the radiographer at the hospital, or I wanted to start glowing in the dark after having yet another x-ray done!

    In the end she just frustrated me so much I walked out.

    I will try a different Dr next time. My usual Dr is not available for over 5 weeks at present.

    Maybe I need to come up with a better story other than the fact I am in a lot of pain!

    Maybe if I just keep sitting there I will get what I want eventually! I might take in a thermos of coffee and a chocolate donut in case it takes a long time! Ha. Ha. A picnic in the Drs office. Now that would be something different! Not sure about the transfer of germs...

    Humour has shown up briefly!

    Cheers all from Dools

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    22 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Dools, you are remarkable.

    You've turned a very serious matter into something that I laughed out loud about.

    That doesn't help you at all. I'd be huffy. Did the doctor give you a reason why she would n't give you a referral? I'm with you I certainly wouldn't be seeing her again.

    Hey any men out there, you don't have to read any further.

    Doctors hey. You know, about 20 years ago, a young female doctor was trying to talk me into having a hysterectomy because of specific issues. After leaving the surgery, I did some research about my specifics and the proposed solution. Everything I read said - leave it because they'll shrivel and disappear after menopause. Well, went back to the doc and told her no go. She said suit yourself - if you want to put up with that every month that's your look out. Anyway, the following year I started menopause. Gees, am I glad I took my own advice.

    So, back to you Dools. Can you go to your local hospital emergency department, they might do an xray, CT scan on the spot?

    Kind regards

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    22 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools,

    You are an amazing woman, your struggling with your own issues yet your posts, you reaching out for support has turned your words around and has given some humour, and laughter to those needing help. That's gold Dools..

    I laughed as well, thank you for making me laugh today, I just read and re read your X-ray post, you are not only funny but you are also so witty, imaginative I love reading your posts..They are so uplifting. Your a legend Dools,

    Picnic in the Drs office how good would that be for passing the time quicker, or maybe add a checkers game in there as well..Inhad an appointment at 3pm one time..I can't sit in the waiting room if people are there so I will wait outside in my car,, the receptionist comes get me..this day it was a 3.pm appointment and at 4.15pm I'm still waiting. So I told the receptionist to tell the Drs I'm leaving, and I did...Now my dr makes me first in the morning or first after lunch, bingo, no more waiting..

    I heard you felt like crying today, it makes it hard day feeling like that, we need distraction and the shop work is great for distraction...let it out Dools crying I think release stress..

    i hope that your ⚡️ zapped tomorrow by some light, please Dools Be gentle to yourself..

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    23 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Ahh Dools you're having a hard time 🤗 here take this freeby but don't tell the others ok

    Neck and back are bad places because theres so much use on them both and you've troubles with both.

    Sad hearing you wanted to cry all day.

    You are one funny lady agree with Grandy wit as well. I was lol at the reasons you wanted an Xray. You seriously rock Doolsy

    I really hope todays better for you M/physically you so deserve

    🤗 remember Mums the word with the hugs

    🌲 thats Weetbix Willow tree

    Oh nearly forgot I picked this from my garden for you ⚘

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    23 March 2018 in reply to demonblaster

    Hi All,

    Thanks for your lovely messages, Pamela, Deebi and Karen. Much appreciated. My mind has been playing funny little tricks on me today! Quite up and down with emotions and feelings. Good thing I still know which way is up!

    I went tot he physio this afternoon and told her about my neck, so she worked on my lower back and stuck needles in very tight muscles. She ran out of time to check out my neck. I did ask about an x-ray or CT scan and she was a bit reluctant to suggest one unless I was planning to ask for a steroid injection to alleviate the pain.

    I attend a pain clinic in May so guess they may have some different options for dealing with all these aches and pains.

    Must say those acupuncture needles were certainly effective in locating painful regions I didn't know existed. I almost bounced off the bed I was in that much pain!

    I bought some wool today so I can finish the border on my crochet blanket while my husband is watching the AFL tonight! Footy in March! It used to be a winter sport in my day when Mrs. Noah was a girl!

    Cheers all from Dools

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    23 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools

    Acupuncture can be really good, especially for tight muscles. It's also good for a range of things. Used to have it regularly, not for pain, but have been unable to find someone here.

    Hope you find some relief from your pain Dools.

    Watch the Footy!! Can't say I'll be joining you though. I'm a tennis and basketball fan.

    Cheers to you Dools.

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    23 March 2018 in reply to PamelaR
    haha when Mrs Noah was a girl Hey all :)

    I've heard acupunctures good from most I've spoken to, yikes you poor thing.

    I'm with Pammy not that any sport excites me on the box but don't mind Boxing, tennis and basketball, actually AFL's not bad.

    A friend was 16 at the time I think and she crocheted so fast you couldn't see what she was doing imagine how she is now for speed. Sounds nice your blanket Dools :)
    Sil (sister in law) did one, got it on the spare bed, pretty and they're warm too.

    Preparations going well for your Jungle party Dools, its all coming together nicely, fun aye :D

    As long as you know which ways up you're doing well. How's the heart treating you these days.

    Do you still want reminders for back excercises?

    All best to you all :)

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    24 March 2018 in reply to demonblaster

    Hi PamelaR, Deebi and All,

    My husband was really frustrated by the Adelaide Crows in the last quarter and turned the channel before the end of the game. My parents had phoned also and we talked for almost an hour which is a bit of a rarity but oh so very lovely!

    Thanks for the offer of a reminder for the exercises DB I have a note on the bench...and still forget sometimes.

    I will do my stretches soon, have breakfast and go for a walk. I need to catch up on my study as well, so will try and do more stretches while I am sitting at the computer and have a good stretching session in the afternoon.

    Hopefully I will be too busy today to allow depression to take a hold. We have friends coming over tonight for dinner and to play some board games. It will be a lovely evening.

    Hope you all have a good day! It is going to be a hot one here.

    Cheers all from Dools

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    24 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools,

    Im really happy you enjoyed your talk time with your parents, that would have put some light in your day. It sounds like you enjoyed it a lot..

    keeping busy I feel is the best way to keep depression away for a while, which gives " our mind a holiday" Tony wk. told me that once and I like that idea.. Of our minds taking a holiday,

    I hope you enjoyed your walk and spotted some birds, flowers Eric to make it more enjoyable and mindful, although your walks are alway pleasurable to read about.

    Enjoy your dinner tonight with your friends, and your board games...Spending time with friends is the best distraction for depression that you can ever get..

    Hope your day was good and I hope your night even better.

    kind thoughts,

    Karen..Grandy

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    24 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools (wave to others)

    Ouch, fancy changing channel before the end of the game. I like AFL out of all the leagues and used to watch it occasionally, but have not done so for many years. But I would be a little upset to have it turned off before the end (even though one knew the outcome)! It would be like walking out on a basketball match when you knew your team wasn't going to win. Couldn't do that.

    Did you get your exercises done? I did quite a bit of walking today, bird watching and photographing with friends. Saw some interesting birds, though was a little disappointed that there weren't many around. However, I did a bit of still life photographs.

    How did your dinner with friends go?

    Kind regards

    PamelaR

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    26 March 2018 in reply to PamelaR

    Hi All,

    Struggling a little, not too involved with the forum right now.

    My compulsory study is doing my head in as is this horrid depression. A bit tricky trying to write appropriate answers when what I really want to do is quit and run away!

    Yesterday I was rather stressed and depressed so thought I would get all those good hormones active and went for a walk and kept on walking and crying and walked some more. Then I stopped and realised I had to walk home again!

    I was on a bush track so couldn't even phone my husband to ask him to come and get me! At least I slept a little better last night after a 2 hour walk and a bucket load of pain medication.

    Hope to be back on the forum for a while tomorrow!

    Cheers from Dools

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    26 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Dear Dools 🖐 to everyone

    Very sorry to hear you're struggling dear friend 🤗

    I love and admire how you push through like you do, honestly you're such an inspiration and light to so many I want amongst many here to be with you and help you find your light

    Remember Dools this too will pass with time

    With you every step of your journey you amazing good lady

    Peace wished ☺

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    26 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi Dools

    Sorry to hear you're not in a good space atm. Sit back for awhile. You are so good at giving of yourself to others. Let us give to you.

    I missed a post about your compulsory study. What are you studying?

    Are you just wanting to run away atm from study because you are depressed?

    Or is your study causing your depression? I know when I was studying - I always had to have the best answers, my personal best mark, never anything below a distinction. That it itself drove my anxiety through the roof and consequently my depression.

    So pleased you went for a walk today (even though it was painful - hope that settles soon). 2 hours is a long time. Know what you mean though - start walking, start thinking and before you know it you've walked an 1hr and then you have to turn around and walk back another 1hr.....

    Maybe the elephants can do some good with sinking your depression in the river tonight.

    Loads of virtual hugs. Lots of care. Be very very kind to yourself wonderful person!

    PamelaR

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    26 March 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hello Dools,

    Im really sorry you're struggling so much with depression.

    I can relate to you wanting to run away from your studies, or is it just everything. I think we really only want to run away from our thoughts, but I have found out that they follow us everywhere like a shadow.

    Maybe Dools if studying gets to hard due to depression, maybe put a short session of meditation in between, to relax you mind a little.

    Your walk must have been really hard after crying, and knowing you had to walk back, I'm so proud of your strength and courage your showing in still doing your walks when so depressed you really are inspiring...Really Dools you do well.

    Please Dools don't push yourself to much, be gentle with yourself and take time out to just sit outside with a tablecloth, pot of tea and some yummies, listen to the birds, feel the sun and cool breeze, breath and relax..

    kind thoughts

    Karen..../ Grandy

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    27 March 2018 in reply to Ggrand

    Good Morning Dools,

    Im just popping in to let you know I'm sitting with you today, hoping today will be better then yesterday.

    Please Dools, take time out of today for yourself, Maybe go outside, take your shoes of stand and feel the grass under your feet, watch those little birds in your back yard and listen to the beautiful music they make with there whistles, have a look at your colourful garden and smell the scents of the autumn air, Just a little you time to unwind and tune in with your senses and Mother Nature.

    I hope today bring you some relief from your depression and some light enters your day today,

    Kindness,

    Karen..../Grand

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    27 March 2018 in reply to Ggrand

    Dear Dools (👋all you other lovelies)

    Please go gently with your dear self. Don't push yourself. Take great care of you.

    Remember what you tell us: it's ok to float for a while Dools.

    Just float.

    As Deebs said, this will pass.

    Just go with it.

    We're here with you.

    Sending love and light your way dear Dools.

    Love 🌻birdy

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