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Topic: Coping during the Coronavirus outbreak

  1. Sleepy21
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    19 July 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP
    Hi Elizabeth just wandering how you are going and how your husband is? How have you been faring these few weeks, any news about the treatment?
    sending care
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  2. meforcats
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    19 July 2020 in reply to SoundlyBlurred
    Soundlyblurred I'm in Vic too and it is frustrating. Yesterday I had cabin fever. A friend in WA is back at all activities and clubs and I'm sooo envious. But we'll be there again one day. Figures of cases yesterday were much better than the day before. About half. So that's promising. Keep putting one foot in front of the other. Take care.
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  3. Elizabeth CP
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    19 July 2020 in reply to Sleepy21
    Thanks Sleepy for your thoughts. It is confusing at times because different people have different ideas about what is required. My husband can't see the surgeon until he has some more tests but one off them can't be done because it too risky due to current covid situation. Today he couldn't eat due to his condition which is not good. I an concerned about the mask wearing for him as a mask will make it harder from him to be understood when speaking. Because he is blind he relies on being able to sense what is around him to stay safe but the mask will make it harder. My mood is up & down but more down than up. I feel very alone with no real support.
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  4. P0L0
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    19 July 2020

    Hello Everyone,

    I just wanted to share a bit about how I am coping with the Victorian lockdown and the subsequent lack of motivation and feeling of boredom. I am recently learning that setting goals has helped me maintain my enjoyment from my hobbies. For example, I have recently started learning songs on the keyboard. Only after setting myself a goal of being able to play several songs by Christmas, have I been truly enjoying playing the keyboard. This is the same for the picture I am cross stitching. I hadn't made much progress on it until I set myself a goal of finishing it also by Christmas. I am going to try and apply this goal method to other parts of my life to help me feel better about myself during this lockdown.

    I hope this could help you!

    P0L0

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  5. Sleepy21
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    19 July 2020 in reply to SapereAude
    Hey SA, how did you go after the infusion?
    How are you feeling about all these changes? hope you're doing well and you seem to have a very healthy, positive attitude, which we all benefit from
  6. fred4761
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    19 July 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP
    Elizabeth, I can only imagine how challenging this must be for you not getting the support that you and your husband need. I have a family member with a special needs daughter and they have not been able to have respite since Covid started. Additionally, most of her therapies have been paused at the moment putting more strain on them. I don't know what else to say other than I hear you and sympathise.
  7. Sleepy21
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    19 July 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    hi elizabeth,

    you are so right it is a very hard time with the confusion and to even know what to follow, you and your husband are in my thoughts. hope for some good news for both of u

  8. SD0102
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    19 July 2020

    I feel like I’ve lost my mojo over the last week or so and have gotten myself in a rut. The numbers of cases in Victoria was already getting me down, and now the increase in cases in NSW isn’t helping. I seem to have lost interest in things and can’t find any inspiration.

    Will this ever end ?

    Or is living with Coronavirus going to part of our‘new norm’

    I just don’t know how to deal with the excessive worry, when the situation is constantly changing.

  9. Sleepy21
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    19 July 2020

    it's a bit disheartening, isn't it, to see the cases rise. we are trying and i thought maybe it was working here in victoria... but seems more needs to be done.
    Interesting that now masks are becoming mandatory.

    you're definitely not alone SD in being affected and concerned by the new changes. We are all asking questions and wandering how to get through, tryig our hardest to stay positive and to control what we can, and let go of what we can't... not the easiest of tasks for sure

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  10. randomx
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    19 July 2020 in reply to Sleepy21

    Yeah it is , for sure . l remember just a few wks back there was a day with zero cases and l couldn't even explain the feelings and relief l felt when l heard it.

    l saw on 7 news they mentioned some special, l thought it'd be tonight but l can't find it. But some scientist is saying we could be have zero cases in 6 wks - if we did he's idea but l couldn't find out when the show is . l bet l know what it is though, complete lockdown for 6 wks.

    At any rate , scared to hope for falling numbers this wk l think l'll brace for the worst instead butttttt, l may just quietly cross a few things though .

    rx

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  11. quirkywords
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    19 July 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Elizabeth,

    I am so sorry things are so difficult you and your husband, I know you try so hard and are full of compassion for others.
    it sounds like many people are becoming tired and frustrated,

    I wonder can anyone think of anything that has helped them?

    polo said the setting goals helped, Has anyone found that has helped,

  12. Elizabeth CP
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    19 July 2020 in reply to quirkywords

    Thanks Quirky, Sleepy & Fred for your encouragement. Random X for a long time I felt I had nothing in common with you. Your ideas, lifestyle & challenges were so different to mine but your descriptions of how you are feeling about coronavirus is exactly how I feel. When numbers started to rise I wondered if we were overreacting because it was still so small & hardly anyone in hospital but now with hospital numbers & ICU numbers climbing it is very scary. Having so many health care workers catching it is really affecting our hospital system not just for covid but for any health issues.

    I try to set goals but I'm struggling because things keep changing making it hard to follow through. We engaged a support worker starting this week to help my husband. I'm now worried because one of the sources of transmission is workers in aged care etc working in multiple sites picking it up one place & passing it on elsewhere. I can't have family visiting to help even though they would be safer because my son works at home & only goes out walking riding etc where he can stay apart from people but a support worker is in close contact with some clients.

  13. Guest_5432
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    20 July 2020 in reply to Elizabeth CP

    Hi Everyone at BB &those reading.

    This covid-19 is really affecting that lately. Everything is one big huge effort on my part to keep going. Nothing gives me the incentive to moving forward. I struggle just to get out of bed each day only to know with lockdown restrictions in certain areas in Victoria especially the hotspots has made me even more despondent. No visitors allowed not allowed to visit anyone. I seldom see or speak with another human being. Wearing masks are compulsory from 12.01am this week Thursday. I know it's all for a protection for as the C-19 can be spread by droplets in the air as much as 5 meters away. Wearing a mask has really never bothered me. Been wearing them for many years due to other medical reasons but as humans we Do forget at times to put it on. An on the spot fine if I forget.. can't visit family so the negatives go on.

    This is reality in my personal life. Not imagery. Am doing very best to stay positive

    Have a good day e everyone.

    The Rose

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    20 July 2020

    In response to Quirkyword's great question...

    I wonder can anyone think of anything that has helped them?

    Even from reading just a few posts, the news of the VIC lockdown seems to getting people down a bit, and just after people seemed like they just starting to find a new 'normal.' That's understandable- I firstly say don't these feelings of disillusionment/frustration/disappointment to much. Acknowledge these feelings, maybe even write them down and articulate them, but then move on.

    In terms of actually managing ongoing anxiety around the situation, I'd say it's time to amplify self-care routines. Find your inner child. Do something each day that makes you excited. I'm not talking about something you just 'look forward too.' I mean to do something that makes your heart skip a beat and makes you smile without realising. Build a pillow fort. Do it- this one was fun for me. Get your kids involved if you have any. Do a backyard experiment. Make that dream purchase (online if you can!). Sing karaoke. Offer to foster a shelter puppy if it's within your means. Do something you won't get bored of or won't regret committing too anytime soon (insert all of my neglected home improvement projects if you are anything like me lol).

    I hope this helps and is something a little different to the usual "distract yourself whilst staying at home" activities we usually see.

    Tay100

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  15. SapereAude
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    20 July 2020 in reply to Moonstruck

    Hi Moonstruck,

    Whilst biomedical researchers will be mainly trying to develop a vaccine, other teams will be looking at medications to treat / manage Covid.

    Hard to say exactly what will happen but we know that people are resilient and come what may we will go on living life as close to normal as possible.

    It may take 2-3 years before we can somewhat manage the issue which will be hard but we have to strike the balance at some point of preserving physical/ mental health and not sending Australia back to Stone Age economies.

    It seems that the virus likes cooler climates with low humidity as a preference but it’s virulence is a concern anywhere with a higher population density. Or where you get groups of people deliberately being rather obtuse.

    As a bottom line, anyone showing symptoms needs to isolate, social distance and masks in Victoria are vital and we need greater number and quality of home testing kits to minimise any spread, especially if asymptomatic.

    Whilst this isn’t fun, we need to all do our bit to stop the scourge’s spread and give ourselves the best chance of knocking this virus over.

  16. SapereAude
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    20 July 2020 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hi Sleepy

    Thanks for your post.
    I have had to stop taking some medication as my body was rejecting it. So once it settles down a bit I’ll have to have some infusion treatment in hospital. It won’t be fun but fingers crossed, it’s not like I’ll have to go to intensive care and fight for my life. I have some other medication to continue to take too. So be it. Could be much worse.

    The latest Covid setback for VIC is frustrating and hopefully the other states don’t have similar issues. At the end of the day it seems many may be asymptomatic so you never know who has got it- we can’t rely on symptoms.

  17. SapereAude
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    20 July 2020

    For anyone who can’t draw (like me) and would like to learn or improve, all you need is a grey lead and some coloured pencils and paper and you have the start already.

    simply Google something you are interested in like

    How to draw

    - Bluey

    - Flower

    - Peppa Pig etc.

    There are some great free and simple videos out there!

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  18. randomx
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    20 July 2020 in reply to SapereAude

    Yeah l worry it could be a 2 or 3 yr thing too buttttt, labs all over the world are testing all kinds of things as we speak too day in and out from vacs to treatments . And lucky for us they have the best motivation in the world for a drug company too , money . That'll keepem moving because the first one out is going to make enough money to run a country .

    Why do shops always make me sad in all this , don't worry l know why , just sayin. Had to go get stuff today , l think frame of mind wise l'd be better ordering delivery. look forward to getting out but once your there seeing everyone always hits home.

    To someone asking what helps sorry l'm dyslexic and can't see who it was but for me personally well, not much actually. l'm just trying not to worry, trying not to watch too much news, trying to just go on with doing my thing and just throwing hands in the air basically. Me l'm not trying too hard to cope though if at all because it could be a long haul and trying will just wear out reserves, so l kinda just going with the bizarre numbness l feel with it all of it all myself .Wake up tomorrow, more twilight zone , what can we do. Hiya Elizabeth and ahhh, no one has to have anything in common with anyone hope feel some support around here from people though anyway and that it helps you through even a tiny bit at least .

    rx

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  19. JB71
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    I’m over all this, I can’t do it anymore! The way I feel right now I wish I would go to sleep and just never wake up.

    This might seem trivial to many people, but the introduction of mandatory face masks in Melbourne has pushed my anxiety levels off the scale. Let me be clear, I would happily wear a mask if I could, but for whatever reason I can’t breathe when wearing one, I feel like I’m suffocating! It is not from lack of trying either. In the last month or so I have spent around $200 trying to find some sort of face covering in preparation of this day coming. It doesn’t matter what i try it is the same with everything I’ve tried. I end up ripping the mask (or whatever else) off my face gasping for air.

    I believe I can go to my GP and get an exemption, but in reality that won’t achieve anything. Instead of not being able to breathe I’ll be harassed by police and harassed and abused in the street for not wearing one. I even read that some retailers will not allow you into a store without a mask and more will without a doubt follow I can’t win no matter what I do!

    I know some people will find this trivial, especially since I’ve already been abused online when I asked a genuine question about any alternatives and was told I was a whinger and trying to find loopholes. I wouldn’t have wasted $200 on trying to find something if that was the case!

    I won’t even be able to go for a walk, so I’m going to be stuck inside 24/7 for who knows how long and no one cares. 

    Thanks for listening.

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    20 July 2020 in reply to JB71
    Hi JB71,

    Welcome to the Beyond Blue forums, we're so glad you decided to join us here. We're so sorry to hear how distressed you're feeling at the moment. We empathise with how difficult it is to adapt to all of these changes. Please know that our community is here to support you and we will get through this. We are reaching out to you privately to offer some extra support. If you feel it might be useful, we'd encourage you to visit our Coronavirus Mental Wellbeing Support Service. The website will be regularly updated with information, advice and strategies to help you manage your wellbeing and mental health during this time. This includes a 24/7 telephone counselling service. You might find some of the following Beyond Blue resources helpful: Many of our members have felt similar and will be able to talk through these feelings with you. If you would like to post further, we would recommend that you start a thread of your own to tell us more about what's on your mind and how we can best help you get through this tough period.
  21. blondguy
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    21 July 2020 in reply to JB71
    Hello JB71

    There is nothing trivial about your concerns at all. You are not on your own as many of us also find wearing a mask difficult

    I don't know what you purchased for a mask yet some of them can be weird to breathe through.

    I have some N95 masks that i am getting used to

    The basic blue masks are user friendly. Usually about $30 for 50 masks

    This is crappy time we are going through for sure

    I'm in Melbourne metro as well....I understand your frustration JB

    Paul
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  22. Guest_5432
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    21 July 2020 in reply to blondguy

    Hi Blondguy

    Those N95 masks you had mentioned in your post to JB71 isn't suitable for everyone. Certainly takes some getting used too wearing it. On the fine print of those masks it gives a stern warning to those who have other underlying medical illnesses. It's not suitable for those who suffer severe anxiety/mental disorders, asthmatics, diabetics, cardiovascular disease etc.

    In your case it may be suitable to wear an N95 mask though you also have anxiety. Each individual is different is dealing by wearing a masks as JB71 doing his best. I do feel very sorry for him & he's reached out to BB for the help to overcome his fears. Sophie-M has given excellent advice & we all need to stand behind JB71 to reassure that everything is going to be OK.

    We're living in extraordinary & trying times that's testing our endurance to keep preserving.

    Just like you Blondguy, I also live south east on metro Melbourne lockdown hotspot with strictly no visitors nor allowed to visit others except going out for the 4 essentials as the Victorian government had listed.

    Endurance & perseverance is absolutely essential to keep everyone calm.

    thank you for reading & take care Everyone at BB Forums.

    We'll get through it. The Rose

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    21 July 2020 in reply to Guest_5432
    Hey Rose

    I didn't recommend a N95. Just mentioned what I have been trying to get used to

    The cheaper 3 layered alternative is more user friendly at approx $30 for 50 as per my post above

    'We' do feel for JB71 Rose

    let's be gentle to each other during this difficult period


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  24. Guest_5432
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    21 July 2020 in reply to blondguy

    Thank you Blondguy for bringing it to my attention about N95 mask. I've mis read it your post. I understood it entirely wrong so please accept my humble apologies.

    I wasn't having a "go" at you at all & am Sincerely sorry if it came across that way. There was absolutely no ill intent meant by it.

    With kind regards, Rose

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  25. fred4761
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    21 July 2020 in reply to JB71
    Hi JB71, I too found it challenging to breath in a mask initially. My psychiatrist gave me some useful strategies for getting used to breathing in a mask and I will share them later on when I have more time. In the meantime I was wondering if you could wear a face shield instead? I think I recall seeing/reading/hearing something about wearing them in Vic as an alternative to masks . . . anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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  26. Hanna3
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    21 July 2020 in reply to JB71

    Hi JB71,

    The disposable surgical ones aren't too bad - the ones that surgeons wear that you can tie at the back of your head are more comfortable but I don't know if you can find them. Wearing a mask can feel a bit claustrophobic until you get the hang of it, I'm sorry you're finding it so uncomfortable.

    I'm just wondering if you are wearing them too tight - you can't seal them tight or you can't breathe, if you use the disposable surgical masks (at pharmacies/Bunnings) they have to gape a bit at the sides so you can breathe. I'm wondering if you are trying to make them seal too tight - you need to have gaps at the side to get air. You could try a bandana style as well if this is any better, using a cloth. Good luck I hope you find something that you find more comfortable.

  27. JB71
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    21 July 2020 in reply to fred4761

    Thanks I would really appreciate any advice.

    I was wondering about the face shields and that was what kind of pushed me over the edge yesterday. There was a post on Facebook where people could ask questions about the wearing of masks. I asked a question on there if face shields were acceptable. Despite explaining my circumstances, I was attacked and abused from every direction for being a whinger, for trying to find loopholes and that I should be thinking of others not myself. Never got an answer to my question!

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  28. JB71
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    21 July 2020 in reply to Hanna3

    I’ve tried that many different things. I’ve tried disposable surgical, I have two different types of those. One has a horrible smell to them fresh out the packet that I need to hang up for 24 hours just to wear them for a few minutes. I’ve tried cloth, I tried to make my own out of a tshirt, all with the same result. Some I can wear for longer than others, but I haven’t been able to wear anything for an extended period of time.

    I’ve spoken to my GP this morning and he has given me a letter, I don’t have it yet, but says something along the lines of to avoid panic attacks I might need to remove a mask for a period of time as I find them suffocating. That was something that was adding to my anxiety and potentially making it worse, the worry if I needed to take it off I’d be harassed by police and be abused by others. It’s not like I haven’t tried and it’s not like I’m not prepared to try and wear one.

    Everyone has anxiety about what is going on and it appears in different ways for all of it. I just find it so frustrating that everyone from the Premier down have this one size fits all mentality and if people don’t comply then they are bad people.

  29. Doz86
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    21 July 2020 in reply to JB71

    Dear JB71,

    Thanks so much for your wise full thought.

    Since COVID-19 hit, nearly all of Japan have been wearing facemasks with great results relating to their COVID statistics. And I'm sure is Japan can do it Australia can do it.

    Over the weekend I to found it hard at moments to breathe through a mask. But you know what they say, 'practice makes perfect'. Good luck and remember practice makes perfect.

    Regards,

    Doz

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  30. Just Sara
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    21 July 2020

    Hi everyone;

    I'd like to try and instil hope at this time of great foreboding.

    In 1918 the Spanish flue infected a third of the world's population (300 million) and killed 50 million people. That's one in every 18 people! One of the ways governments tried to limit infection rates was to make businesses open and close in shifts to avoid crowds on public transport. (We've come a long way since then) They were desperate, bloody clueless and in great despair averaging 98,000 deaths per day over 17 months!

    Currently, the mortality rate is an average of just over 4,000 each day from Covid-19 according to the World Health Organisation.

    There truly is hope! This isn't the worst we've had it, and due an all-in response, it's going to get better.

    Kind thoughts to all;

    Sez

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